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Dialogue with Donald
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PART-II
KHALILUR RAHMAN
When The Evangellistics Ministry stopped all communication with me, I started looking for other organizations in face book who intends to discuss with me on Christianity. I found a web page named godlife.com who is interested on discussion; but not on face book. They wanted to communicate with email only. I agreed & sent a mail to them. Mr. Donald from godlife.com started replied & the strings of communications started with them as coming to the following pages.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
To: [email protected]
Subject: fb-godlife.com: Jesus did not say that He will die on cross to pay for your sin. Please quote where he said this.
Subject: fb-godlife.com: Jesus did not say that He will die on cross to pay for your sin. Please quote where he said this.
[email protected]
Dear Khalilur,
Thank you for taking the time to send us an email. You will receive a reply from one of our caring volunteers who will pray for you, answer any questions and provide suggestions on ways to get closer to God.The Bible tells us "If we draw near to God, He will draw near to us" (James 4:8). You can start growing in your relationship with God right now. Please do not respond to this message. One of our volunteers will email you shortly.
At 12:46 PM 5/12/2012, [email protected]
wrote:(KJV)
John 3: 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Look into the scriptures where Moses lifted up the serpent and you will see there a perfect picture of the judgment of God and His deliverance for those who believe. It is in Numbers 21: 5-9 :Believe and see. Taste and see that the lord is good! Blessed is the one who puts their trust in Him!
Thank you for taking the time to send us an email. You will receive a reply from one of our caring volunteers who will pray for you, answer any questions and provide suggestions on ways to get closer to God.The Bible tells us "If we draw near to God, He will draw near to us" (James 4:8). You can start growing in your relationship with God right now. Please do not respond to this message. One of our volunteers will email you shortly.
At 12:46 PM 5/12/2012, [email protected]
wrote:(KJV)
John 3: 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. Look into the scriptures where Moses lifted up the serpent and you will see there a perfect picture of the judgment of God and His deliverance for those who believe. It is in Numbers 21: 5-9 :Believe and see. Taste and see that the lord is good! Blessed is the one who puts their trust in Him!
KHALILUR RAHMAN
Thank you very much for your reply. I had a very specific question. I asked whether Jesus did say anywhere in Bible that he will die on a cross to pay for our sins. You did not touch this point in your reply. Please give specific reply quoting from Bible. Secondly, you talked about the Son of Man who comes down from heaven, he should be lifted up & to be believed to get eternal life. Who is this Son of Man? Surely he is not Jesus, because you call Jesus as begotten Son of God. I ask you who is this Son of Man.?I hope I will get your reply by return mail.
[email protected] wrote:
At 11:37 AM 5/14/2012, [email protected]
Dear Khalilur,
Your questions seem to be leading. That is, by asking " where did Jesus say He would die on the cross for our sins" you don't seem to be asking to understand, but to look for holes in the Christian assertions on Who Jesus is and what He came to do. He also never said He was a great teacher, but there's no question that He was. The Bible is replete with the account of Who Jesus was and why He came. I don't understand why you rejected the scripture about Him being lifted up, but I'll give you a few more:(KJV) Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Ok, here Jesus said He came to GIVE HIS LIFE AS A RANSOM. what does this mean to you?
(KJV) John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. Here Jesus said He came to give His flesh for us to eat, what does this mean to you?
So, now then, you ask, Did Jesus ever say...." my answer is, yes and absolutely. You see, the entire Bible is God breathed and Jesus being God is the author of the Book that tells us . Who He is. Jesus calls Himself both the Son of God AND the Son of man, because He is God who became flesh and dwelt among us......You see, He came to give us who are dead in our sins, new life. True life. He defined eternal life in John 17:3 as this: ' and this is eternal life, to know thee, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." Do you KNOW God? Jesus came, died and rose from the dead so you could! He is coming again, not as savior, but as judge. Those who reject Him now, will be judged later. For now, He waits and calls to them, that they might be saved.
Dear Khalilur,
Your questions seem to be leading. That is, by asking " where did Jesus say He would die on the cross for our sins" you don't seem to be asking to understand, but to look for holes in the Christian assertions on Who Jesus is and what He came to do. He also never said He was a great teacher, but there's no question that He was. The Bible is replete with the account of Who Jesus was and why He came. I don't understand why you rejected the scripture about Him being lifted up, but I'll give you a few more:(KJV) Mark 10:45 For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many.
Ok, here Jesus said He came to GIVE HIS LIFE AS A RANSOM. what does this mean to you?
(KJV) John 6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. Here Jesus said He came to give His flesh for us to eat, what does this mean to you?
So, now then, you ask, Did Jesus ever say...." my answer is, yes and absolutely. You see, the entire Bible is God breathed and Jesus being God is the author of the Book that tells us . Who He is. Jesus calls Himself both the Son of God AND the Son of man, because He is God who became flesh and dwelt among us......You see, He came to give us who are dead in our sins, new life. True life. He defined eternal life in John 17:3 as this: ' and this is eternal life, to know thee, the only true God and Jesus Christ whom you have sent." Do you KNOW God? Jesus came, died and rose from the dead so you could! He is coming again, not as savior, but as judge. Those who reject Him now, will be judged later. For now, He waits and calls to them, that they might be saved.
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