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KHALILUR RAHMAN
I have received your two letters. I will now reply both of them. I am extremely grateful to you that you are so much worried for my salvation. But, my friend, I am already blessed by the seed of Abraham. Insha-Allah, I will get salvation & will go to heaven. Rather , I am worried about your salvation. You quoted from Bible- "on the day of Judgment you will stand before Jesus and say "Lord, Lord, have I not done all these things in your name" and on that Day He will say to you "get from me you worker of unrighteousness, I never knew you". (Matthew 7:23)". You did not quote the full verse. Are you afraid of quoting the whole truth? The whole verse is like this as below:
" On that day, many will say to me ( Jesus )- Lord, Lord, have we not predict future on your name, have we not spell out the spirits on your name, have we not done all these miracles in your name ? Then I will tell them- "get out from me you worker of unrighteousness, I never knew you". (Matthew 7:22-23)".
Now who are these people Jesus talking about? Muslim does not do anything in the name of Jesus, Hindus does not do anything in the name of Jesus, and Jews does not do anything in the name of Jesus. Only Christian people do all these things mentioned above in the name of Jesus. So, many of you will be thrown out on that day by Jesus. Did you get the truth of this verse? Even a child can understand it. That is why I am afraid about your salvation because you & your nation is totally misguided by Paul & far out of the way of Jesus. Only Faith is not sufficient to enter heaven. You need righteous deeds also. And what is righteous deed? Righteous deeds are defined & prescribed by the Law & Commandments of God. If you become the worker of unrighteousness, Jesus will tell you- “Get out of me. I never knew you."
In my last letter, I talked in details about Paul & his activities. You did not tell me those are true or not. Everything about him I quoted from Bible. If they are not true, you must tell me that they are wrong & why. I showed that all the disciples of Jesus from Jerusalem including Peter &Barnabus from Antioch & other Jew origin Christians from Antioch did not agree to the concept of Paul & left him alone.
I never talked anything outside Bible. My all quotations are from Bible & I quoted only those statements which are very clear & unambiguous. You have made some comments on my quotations. I reply them in my next mail.
" On that day, many will say to me ( Jesus )- Lord, Lord, have we not predict future on your name, have we not spell out the spirits on your name, have we not done all these miracles in your name ? Then I will tell them- "get out from me you worker of unrighteousness, I never knew you". (Matthew 7:22-23)".
Now who are these people Jesus talking about? Muslim does not do anything in the name of Jesus, Hindus does not do anything in the name of Jesus, and Jews does not do anything in the name of Jesus. Only Christian people do all these things mentioned above in the name of Jesus. So, many of you will be thrown out on that day by Jesus. Did you get the truth of this verse? Even a child can understand it. That is why I am afraid about your salvation because you & your nation is totally misguided by Paul & far out of the way of Jesus. Only Faith is not sufficient to enter heaven. You need righteous deeds also. And what is righteous deed? Righteous deeds are defined & prescribed by the Law & Commandments of God. If you become the worker of unrighteousness, Jesus will tell you- “Get out of me. I never knew you."
In my last letter, I talked in details about Paul & his activities. You did not tell me those are true or not. Everything about him I quoted from Bible. If they are not true, you must tell me that they are wrong & why. I showed that all the disciples of Jesus from Jerusalem including Peter &Barnabus from Antioch & other Jew origin Christians from Antioch did not agree to the concept of Paul & left him alone.
I never talked anything outside Bible. My all quotations are from Bible & I quoted only those statements which are very clear & unambiguous. You have made some comments on my quotations. I reply them in my next mail.
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At 02:44 AM 5/28/2012, you wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
I assume you received my other email with my replies regarding the scriptures you quoted, so I will await your reply to that.
Reading what you've written, I can see that you completely disregard the teachings of Paul, as not being the Word of God.
What about the Books of : Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts. 1-3John, James, Revelations? Hebrews?
Are these the Word of God?
What about the Old Testament, are any of those the Word of God?
Dear Khalilur,
I assume you received my other email with my replies regarding the scriptures you quoted, so I will await your reply to that.
Reading what you've written, I can see that you completely disregard the teachings of Paul, as not being the Word of God.
What about the Books of : Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts. 1-3John, James, Revelations? Hebrews?
Are these the Word of God?
What about the Old Testament, are any of those the Word of God?
KHALILUR RAHMAN
Let me reply your this small letter first. After my breakfast, I will sit down with your big letters.
If you read all the available scriptures of different religions of the world, you can easily compare & judge their status. Books of Mathew, Mark, Luke & John of New Testament are written by Mathew, Mark, Luke & John in their own language, but they contain the activities/teachings/sayings of Jesus as they have seen it. Revelation is the Visions/predictions of future seen by John & described by him in his own language. The remaining books of New Testament are mostly letters for different churches written by Paul & others. They contain mostly advices, directives, analysis, quotations etc made by the respective writers. The translation of these books in different languages has, sometimes, changed the inner meanings of it as well.
Old Testament is more clear than New Testament. It is also a mixture of everything including history described by the authors But it contains many directives of God coming direct from God.
Hindu Scriptures are more or less like Old Testament. But they could maintain the original scripture in Sanskrit language, although translations are also available in different languages.
Qur'an is the only scripture now available in the world which is kept in its most original form as it came from God. Nobody can change even a letter from it. Translations are available in different languages. But the original text is always kept with the translation so that anybody can refer it in case of any confusion.
If you read all the available scriptures of different religions of the world, you can easily compare & judge their status. Books of Mathew, Mark, Luke & John of New Testament are written by Mathew, Mark, Luke & John in their own language, but they contain the activities/teachings/sayings of Jesus as they have seen it. Revelation is the Visions/predictions of future seen by John & described by him in his own language. The remaining books of New Testament are mostly letters for different churches written by Paul & others. They contain mostly advices, directives, analysis, quotations etc made by the respective writers. The translation of these books in different languages has, sometimes, changed the inner meanings of it as well.
Old Testament is more clear than New Testament. It is also a mixture of everything including history described by the authors But it contains many directives of God coming direct from God.
Hindu Scriptures are more or less like Old Testament. But they could maintain the original scripture in Sanskrit language, although translations are also available in different languages.
Qur'an is the only scripture now available in the world which is kept in its most original form as it came from God. Nobody can change even a letter from it. Translations are available in different languages. But the original text is always kept with the translation so that anybody can refer it in case of any confusion.
[email protected] wrote:
At 09:39 AM 5/27/2012, you wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
I trust you have already received my previous response about my heart’s desire to see you saved.
This response is now in response to what you say Jesus and His disciples taught, verses what Paul taught.
1: You wrote: Mathew 10: 5-7 "Do not go to Non-Jew and the village of Samaria .
Only go to the lost sheep of Israel".
Answer: Jesus was directing His disciples before He was crucified. He was directing them to go to the house of Israel to preach that the Kingdom of God had come (HE IS, the kingdom of God that had come, by the way). Now, same book: Look now at what Jesus said AFTER His resurrection: Matthew 28: 18-20 "And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen."
2: You wrote:
Mathew 15: 24 Jesus said-"I am sent only to the lost sheep of Israel".
Mathew 15: 26 "It is not good to give the food of Children to dogs."
Same answer as above: You MUST read things in the context they are given
3: You wrote:
Mathew 5: 17-20 "Do not think that I come to destroy the Law and
commandments of Moses, but to strengthen them."
Answer: YES Indeed! Jesus did come to fulfill ALL that the Law and the Prophets foretold. And notice, again, IN CONTEXT, how Jesus ends this teaching....look at verse 48: "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.".
PERFECT! God expects you to be PERFECT.
HOW? How is this possible?
By keeping the law? I don't think so!
I mean, even if you could start today and then actually NEVER sin again, you STILL wouldn't be perfect, because you already sinned! How will you get rid of the sins you already did? By being sorry?
Being sorry for our sin doesn't pay the price for it.
The price for sin is death!
You MUST die to pay for your sins, OR you can accept the sacrifice God made for your sins. He KILLED HIS OWN SON. Will you spit in His face by rejecting His love and insisting on trying to be perfect on your own? What an insult!
You wrote;-
Mathew 23: 2-3 -"Do what you are told to follow the laws of Moses".
My answer:
Yes, Jesus DID say this, but NOT as a means of salvation. But as a matter of fact, that we are supposed to obey God...read the ENTIRE scripture. "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence."
I must say, those of you who focus on 'keeping the law' are concerned with how you look, but not if God has your heart. You focus on doing things FOR God, rather than submitting to His lordship and allowing Him to actually give you a new heart. Give up! Jesus said "come to me and I will give you REST". He didn't come to tie upon us a heavy burden, but to lift the burden onto His shoulders and to lead us in Love.
Luke 16: 29 - "For salvation, give attention to the books of
Moses & Prophets".
Answer:
Well, you have completely misquoted this verse. It has NOTHING to do with what you say that Jesus was teaching. This story is Jesus teaching about an interaction between two dead people, one who was in hell and one who was in Abrahams bossom (the place people went before Jesus died for the sins of the world and rose from the dead, NOW, people go to either hell or heaven, for now, in Christ we are perfect. Before Christ, all we had was the Law and the law could NEVER make someone perfect.) But here, look at what James, the BROTHER of Jesus wrote about the law: "But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues [in it], and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does."
He refers to something called "the LAW of LIBERTY". What do you suppose that Law is?
I will tell you what is it: It is the Law of Love. God so LOVED the world that He gave.
You see, it's not about what we must do for God, it's about what God already did for us
Dear Khalilur,
I trust you have already received my previous response about my heart’s desire to see you saved.
This response is now in response to what you say Jesus and His disciples taught, verses what Paul taught.
1: You wrote: Mathew 10: 5-7 "Do not go to Non-Jew and the village of Samaria .
Only go to the lost sheep of Israel".
Answer: Jesus was directing His disciples before He was crucified. He was directing them to go to the house of Israel to preach that the Kingdom of God had come (HE IS, the kingdom of God that had come, by the way). Now, same book: Look now at what Jesus said AFTER His resurrection: Matthew 28: 18-20 "And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen."
2: You wrote:
Mathew 15: 24 Jesus said-"I am sent only to the lost sheep of Israel".
Mathew 15: 26 "It is not good to give the food of Children to dogs."
Same answer as above: You MUST read things in the context they are given
3: You wrote:
Mathew 5: 17-20 "Do not think that I come to destroy the Law and
commandments of Moses, but to strengthen them."
Answer: YES Indeed! Jesus did come to fulfill ALL that the Law and the Prophets foretold. And notice, again, IN CONTEXT, how Jesus ends this teaching....look at verse 48: "Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.".
PERFECT! God expects you to be PERFECT.
HOW? How is this possible?
By keeping the law? I don't think so!
I mean, even if you could start today and then actually NEVER sin again, you STILL wouldn't be perfect, because you already sinned! How will you get rid of the sins you already did? By being sorry?
Being sorry for our sin doesn't pay the price for it.
The price for sin is death!
You MUST die to pay for your sins, OR you can accept the sacrifice God made for your sins. He KILLED HIS OWN SON. Will you spit in His face by rejecting His love and insisting on trying to be perfect on your own? What an insult!
You wrote;-
Mathew 23: 2-3 -"Do what you are told to follow the laws of Moses".
My answer:
Yes, Jesus DID say this, but NOT as a means of salvation. But as a matter of fact, that we are supposed to obey God...read the ENTIRE scripture. "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence."
I must say, those of you who focus on 'keeping the law' are concerned with how you look, but not if God has your heart. You focus on doing things FOR God, rather than submitting to His lordship and allowing Him to actually give you a new heart. Give up! Jesus said "come to me and I will give you REST". He didn't come to tie upon us a heavy burden, but to lift the burden onto His shoulders and to lead us in Love.
Luke 16: 29 - "For salvation, give attention to the books of
Moses & Prophets".
Answer:
Well, you have completely misquoted this verse. It has NOTHING to do with what you say that Jesus was teaching. This story is Jesus teaching about an interaction between two dead people, one who was in hell and one who was in Abrahams bossom (the place people went before Jesus died for the sins of the world and rose from the dead, NOW, people go to either hell or heaven, for now, in Christ we are perfect. Before Christ, all we had was the Law and the law could NEVER make someone perfect.) But here, look at what James, the BROTHER of Jesus wrote about the law: "But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues [in it], and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does."
He refers to something called "the LAW of LIBERTY". What do you suppose that Law is?
I will tell you what is it: It is the Law of Love. God so LOVED the world that He gave.
You see, it's not about what we must do for God, it's about what God already did for us
KHALILUR RAHMAN
Now I will try to reply your this letter, Insha-Allah.
You said, Jesus directed his disciple not to go to Non-Jews before his crucifixion. But after he is crucified, he ordered them to go to all the people. These two statements are contradictory to each other. My question is , which one is more credible, statement given by Jesus in public when he was alive or statement given by his spirit on top of a hillock in front of his 11 disciples? I believe, a living Jesus is more reliable & credible. Please read the last instructions of Jesus from other 3 books also. Please read John 21:15-19. You will find that Jesus gave last instruction to Peter to look after his lambs of Israel. He did not tell him to go to others. Jesus also predicted that Peter will join somebody unwillingly at his old days. This man may be Paul. You have to derive the truth from all these.
To reply your second question, I must say that the two verses I quoted from Bible are so clear &unambiguous that everybody will understand it. You cannot explain it to get other meanings. If Jesus says, he is for the lambs of Israel, certainly he is. Jesus cannot lie.
I can tell you same thing to reply your 3rd question. if Jesus says, you have to keep the Laws & Commandments, then that is the way to attain perfection.
To reply your 4th question, I also say that yes, Jesus told us to clean the cup from inside & outside. Your faith will clean inside & keeping Laws & Commandments will clean your outside. Jesus emphasized both Faith & Laws.
For your 5th question, yes, it is a story of two dead men. But who is describing this story as example? While Jesus telling this story, he narrated the statement of Abraham. Abraham said, give attention to the books of Moses & Prophets for salvation.
Now I have one question to you. Jesus called himself Son of Man & Son of God. His 12 disciples are also called Son of God. Even Jesus said- - Who so ever have faith on Jesus, he is the son of God (John 1:12). So, you are also son of God. But, sometimes you call Jesus the Begotten Son of God. What you mean by begotten, what is its dictionary meaning & why Jesus should be the begotten son. You must quote from Bible in your reply.
You said, Jesus directed his disciple not to go to Non-Jews before his crucifixion. But after he is crucified, he ordered them to go to all the people. These two statements are contradictory to each other. My question is , which one is more credible, statement given by Jesus in public when he was alive or statement given by his spirit on top of a hillock in front of his 11 disciples? I believe, a living Jesus is more reliable & credible. Please read the last instructions of Jesus from other 3 books also. Please read John 21:15-19. You will find that Jesus gave last instruction to Peter to look after his lambs of Israel. He did not tell him to go to others. Jesus also predicted that Peter will join somebody unwillingly at his old days. This man may be Paul. You have to derive the truth from all these.
To reply your second question, I must say that the two verses I quoted from Bible are so clear &unambiguous that everybody will understand it. You cannot explain it to get other meanings. If Jesus says, he is for the lambs of Israel, certainly he is. Jesus cannot lie.
I can tell you same thing to reply your 3rd question. if Jesus says, you have to keep the Laws & Commandments, then that is the way to attain perfection.
To reply your 4th question, I also say that yes, Jesus told us to clean the cup from inside & outside. Your faith will clean inside & keeping Laws & Commandments will clean your outside. Jesus emphasized both Faith & Laws.
For your 5th question, yes, it is a story of two dead men. But who is describing this story as example? While Jesus telling this story, he narrated the statement of Abraham. Abraham said, give attention to the books of Moses & Prophets for salvation.
Now I have one question to you. Jesus called himself Son of Man & Son of God. His 12 disciples are also called Son of God. Even Jesus said- - Who so ever have faith on Jesus, he is the son of God (John 1:12). So, you are also son of God. But, sometimes you call Jesus the Begotten Son of God. What you mean by begotten, what is its dictionary meaning & why Jesus should be the begotten son. You must quote from Bible in your reply.
[email protected] wrote:
At 04:38 AM 5/28/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Since I am fasting and praying today, I thought I'd take the time to respond to what you wrote in previous emails that I hadn't yet specifically replied to.
You wrote:
Now I will reply to the last portion of yourreply. You said in Colossians 1: 17-20: it isclearly saying that Jesus is the Creator, who isGod and that the Father is also God. This is theclaim by the people who wrote Collosians afterJesus. Jesus never said that he is the creator.It is no where in Old Testament also that Jesus is the Creator.
My reply: In John 8:58& 59 Jesus said: "Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."
Why did the Religious people pick up stones to throw at Jesus here? It was because He claimed divinity. He said 'before Abraham was, I AM'. All Jews know that ONLY God is I AM. Only God could have been 'before Abraham was'. There is no question that Jesus equated Himself with God.
It is the reason the Jews ultimately killed Him....John 5:18 : "Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God."
I think you would agree that ONLY God is the Creator. Therefore, JESUS DID CLAIM TO BE THE CREATOR.
OK, now for part 2 to your question: The Old Testament. You say there is no where in the Old Testament that Jesus is the Creator. Let's look.
Isaiah 44: 6,7,8 and 24 say: ""Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God." And who can proclaim as I do? Then let him declare it and set it in order for Me, Since I appointed the ancient people. And the things that are coming and shall come, Let them show these to them. Do not fear, nor be afraid; Have I not told you from that time, and declared it? You are My witnesses. Is there a God besides Me? Indeed there is no other Rock; I know not one.' " 24: Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: "I am the LORD, who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself;"
OK, obviously, this scripture is talking about God, the Creator. However, it is also obvious that is speaks of Jesus. Where? Look at the first verse: "Thus says the LORD......and His redeemer, the LORD of hosts. The word LORD in the Bible is the great I AM, or YHWH (Jehovah in English Bibles). So, this reads, Thus says Jehovah and His redeemer, Jehovah of hosts.....
I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST, BESIDES ME THERE IS NO GOD.
OK, again, obviously this is GOD.
Okay, now for your second question:
You said Jesus called Himself the Son of man, not the Son of God and that He was sent FROM God, (so you are implying that He couldn't be God if He was sent from God).
My answer: Why not? Why can't Jesus say that God sent Him and He still be the very God who sent Him? The Lord talks about Himself this way throughout the Old Testament. I, being an actually child of the living God, knows this for I read His word every day. You, who choose not to follow Jehovah, but Allah, can only search the scriptures hoping to find something to disprove the Bible itself. I cannot help you if you do not want help.
I am sorry to be so blunt, but you make it clear that you do not believe in the God of Abaraham, father of the Jews, but believe that Abraham is the father of your faith, Islam and that Mohammed is the Prophet that Jesus said would come. So, you aren't asking questions to learn, but to instruct and you cannot do so, because you do not know God.
If you wish to convert me to Islam, then show me in the Qur’an that your God is the true and living God. You will never be able to convince me by the Bible. I know it far better than you, for I know the Author personally.
You see, I will not be saved on the day of judgment. The reason for this, is because I have ALREADY passed from death to life. My judgment is passed. Jesus took upon Himself the penalty for my sins.
Does this give me license to sin? Of course not! Anyone who is born of God cannot continue in the same habitual sins that had before, because they are now a new creation! They are born again. Born of God. God does not sin, so His children will not practice sin! They may fall on occasion, for they are not yet in Heaven, in their glorified state, but they are, never the less, His children and they are being transformed from glory to glory into the image of the Son, Jesus Christ.
Ok, on to your next question:
You wrote:
I think Christians also did not understand this phrase.Jesus already clarified it in John 6: 35-36. Whoso ever believe in Jesus, he gets that bread oflife & does not have thirst &hunger. He will belifted alive on Final Day ( John 6: 40).. So,eating of flesh & blood means accepting Jesus in
totality & follow his teachings.
My answer: Not bad! I almost agree with you. Yes, eating His flesh and drinking His blood is obviously not literal. It speaks of accepting His death on the cross as that which gives you new life. And, as He said at the last supper, Take, eat, this is my body....take eat, this is my blood.
So, it's our acceptance of His sacrifice that gives us new life. By belieiving, we are taking of His body and His blood and we are born again, having received the Holy Spirit of God, we now are new creatures in Christ and we begin to naturally do the things of God, for we are now His children
Dear Khalilur,
Since I am fasting and praying today, I thought I'd take the time to respond to what you wrote in previous emails that I hadn't yet specifically replied to.
You wrote:
Now I will reply to the last portion of yourreply. You said in Colossians 1: 17-20: it isclearly saying that Jesus is the Creator, who isGod and that the Father is also God. This is theclaim by the people who wrote Collosians afterJesus. Jesus never said that he is the creator.It is no where in Old Testament also that Jesus is the Creator.
My reply: In John 8:58& 59 Jesus said: "Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." Then they took up stones to throw at Him; but Jesus hid Himself and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by."
Why did the Religious people pick up stones to throw at Jesus here? It was because He claimed divinity. He said 'before Abraham was, I AM'. All Jews know that ONLY God is I AM. Only God could have been 'before Abraham was'. There is no question that Jesus equated Himself with God.
It is the reason the Jews ultimately killed Him....John 5:18 : "Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God."
I think you would agree that ONLY God is the Creator. Therefore, JESUS DID CLAIM TO BE THE CREATOR.
OK, now for part 2 to your question: The Old Testament. You say there is no where in the Old Testament that Jesus is the Creator. Let's look.
Isaiah 44: 6,7,8 and 24 say: ""Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel, And his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the First and I am the Last; Besides Me there is no God." And who can proclaim as I do? Then let him declare it and set it in order for Me, Since I appointed the ancient people. And the things that are coming and shall come, Let them show these to them. Do not fear, nor be afraid; Have I not told you from that time, and declared it? You are My witnesses. Is there a God besides Me? Indeed there is no other Rock; I know not one.' " 24: Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, And He who formed you from the womb: "I am the LORD, who makes all things, Who stretches out the heavens all alone, Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself;"
OK, obviously, this scripture is talking about God, the Creator. However, it is also obvious that is speaks of Jesus. Where? Look at the first verse: "Thus says the LORD......and His redeemer, the LORD of hosts. The word LORD in the Bible is the great I AM, or YHWH (Jehovah in English Bibles). So, this reads, Thus says Jehovah and His redeemer, Jehovah of hosts.....
I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST, BESIDES ME THERE IS NO GOD.
OK, again, obviously this is GOD.
Okay, now for your second question:
You said Jesus called Himself the Son of man, not the Son of God and that He was sent FROM God, (so you are implying that He couldn't be God if He was sent from God).
My answer: Why not? Why can't Jesus say that God sent Him and He still be the very God who sent Him? The Lord talks about Himself this way throughout the Old Testament. I, being an actually child of the living God, knows this for I read His word every day. You, who choose not to follow Jehovah, but Allah, can only search the scriptures hoping to find something to disprove the Bible itself. I cannot help you if you do not want help.
I am sorry to be so blunt, but you make it clear that you do not believe in the God of Abaraham, father of the Jews, but believe that Abraham is the father of your faith, Islam and that Mohammed is the Prophet that Jesus said would come. So, you aren't asking questions to learn, but to instruct and you cannot do so, because you do not know God.
If you wish to convert me to Islam, then show me in the Qur’an that your God is the true and living God. You will never be able to convince me by the Bible. I know it far better than you, for I know the Author personally.
You see, I will not be saved on the day of judgment. The reason for this, is because I have ALREADY passed from death to life. My judgment is passed. Jesus took upon Himself the penalty for my sins.
Does this give me license to sin? Of course not! Anyone who is born of God cannot continue in the same habitual sins that had before, because they are now a new creation! They are born again. Born of God. God does not sin, so His children will not practice sin! They may fall on occasion, for they are not yet in Heaven, in their glorified state, but they are, never the less, His children and they are being transformed from glory to glory into the image of the Son, Jesus Christ.
Ok, on to your next question:
You wrote:
I think Christians also did not understand this phrase.Jesus already clarified it in John 6: 35-36. Whoso ever believe in Jesus, he gets that bread oflife & does not have thirst &hunger. He will belifted alive on Final Day ( John 6: 40).. So,eating of flesh & blood means accepting Jesus in
totality & follow his teachings.
My answer: Not bad! I almost agree with you. Yes, eating His flesh and drinking His blood is obviously not literal. It speaks of accepting His death on the cross as that which gives you new life. And, as He said at the last supper, Take, eat, this is my body....take eat, this is my blood.
So, it's our acceptance of His sacrifice that gives us new life. By belieiving, we are taking of His body and His blood and we are born again, having received the Holy Spirit of God, we now are new creatures in Christ and we begin to naturally do the things of God, for we are now His children
KHALILUR RAHMAN
You said you are fasting today. Can you please tell me how is the way of your fasting . I will tell you about our fasting. Every year, we have compulsory fasting of 1 month continuous. Every Muslim has to fast during this month. Our fasting starts from 2 hours before sunrise & ends at sunset. During fasting, we do not eat or drink at all. Even a drop of water is not allowed. No sex at all even with wife & try to avoid all types of sin. This month we do maximum charity. Minimum is 2.5% of our savings. And we have special charity on Eid day. This is in short about fasting.
You have quoted John 8:58-59 to prove that Jesus is equal to God & so he is also the creator of this universe. You please read the whole chapter & you will find that no where Jesus said that he is God. Rather the whole chapter is confusing & ambiguous. No clear-cut answer is there. "Pharisees asked him- Where is your Father? ( John 8:19)" . Jesus did not give any clear reply. He replied- “You do not know me, so you do not know my father...." He should have clearly told them- My Father is in the heaven or something like that. You also read John 8:25. They asked Jesus- Who are you? Again Jesus did not reply clearly. He should have replied, I am God or I am Christ or I am son of God or I am a Messenger of God or something clear-cut like that. But he said- " I am that whatever I am telling from the beginning. There are many things to judge me. Who has sent me, there is no untruth in Him. I tell you only those things which I hear from Him." What was the question & what is the reply. It made people more confused. Now see again- "Then the Jews surrounded Him and said to Him, "How long do You keep us in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly." Here please note that the Jews are begging to him to reply in clear language whether he is Christ or not. But Jesus did not give any clear reply. Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness of Me." Have you seen that there is no clear-cut answer for anything. People got more confused .This type of examples are many & many in New Testament. Old Testament is much more clear in their statement. I do not know what is the reason for it. May be the writers of New Testament could not understand Jesus properly & could not clarify what Jesus said. May be the original script has been modified, edited, interpolated & changed to such an extent that it has lost its clarity. Or Jesus himself did not want to expose his identity fully because his actual mission yet to start. His real mission will start from the day he comes back again. Please read the following verses:
John 6:14-15 Seeing the miracles of Jesus people said- " He is truly that Prophet who is supposed to come to this world". Jesus realized that the people are coming to catch him to make their king forcefully. So, he slipped off & went back to mountain alone himself.
People wanted to make him king. It was not their fault because it was predicted like that in their scripture. But Jesus knew that time has not come yet. It will come true during his 2nd coming. So he was avoiding the crowd & did not disclose his identity fully as Christ. Paul & others took this opportunity of confusion & tried to equate many things to prove that Jesus is God. But a man with common sense will not accept your equation. It is a very bad mathematics.
Yes, I agree that ONLY GOD IS A CREATOR. Jesus is NOT a creator because he is NOT a God. Whatever you have quoted from Old Testament, those are all about One Supreme God. BESIDES HIM THERE IS NO GOD. So, Adam is not God, Abraham is not God, Moses is not God, Jesus is not God, Mohammad is not God. There is no god except Him. This is the concept of Old Testament. They are all about One Real God. They are not about Jesus.
You are quoting from Revelation. But remember, it is the Vision seen by John in his subconscious mind. Some of it may be true, some may not be true. The explanation of this vision also may differ person to person. This type of prediction is made by Nostradamus, by Jane Dickson & many others. I do not know why this type of visions are included in Bible? However, I also want to discuss about Revelation at a later date.
I did not give any quotations from Qur’an, because you do not know Qur'an. I wanted to show you from your own scripture that how misguided you are.
You said a real Christian also do righteous deeds. But what is your standard of right & wrong? For example, if you kiss a girl on the street of Europe, it is not an offence. But if you do the same thing in India, you commit an offence & you will be punished for public nuisance. So you need a standard. Laws & Commandments give that standard.
You have quoted John 8:58-59 to prove that Jesus is equal to God & so he is also the creator of this universe. You please read the whole chapter & you will find that no where Jesus said that he is God. Rather the whole chapter is confusing & ambiguous. No clear-cut answer is there. "Pharisees asked him- Where is your Father? ( John 8:19)" . Jesus did not give any clear reply. He replied- “You do not know me, so you do not know my father...." He should have clearly told them- My Father is in the heaven or something like that. You also read John 8:25. They asked Jesus- Who are you? Again Jesus did not reply clearly. He should have replied, I am God or I am Christ or I am son of God or I am a Messenger of God or something clear-cut like that. But he said- " I am that whatever I am telling from the beginning. There are many things to judge me. Who has sent me, there is no untruth in Him. I tell you only those things which I hear from Him." What was the question & what is the reply. It made people more confused. Now see again- "Then the Jews surrounded Him and said to Him, "How long do You keep us in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly." Here please note that the Jews are begging to him to reply in clear language whether he is Christ or not. But Jesus did not give any clear reply. Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father's name, they bear witness of Me." Have you seen that there is no clear-cut answer for anything. People got more confused .This type of examples are many & many in New Testament. Old Testament is much more clear in their statement. I do not know what is the reason for it. May be the writers of New Testament could not understand Jesus properly & could not clarify what Jesus said. May be the original script has been modified, edited, interpolated & changed to such an extent that it has lost its clarity. Or Jesus himself did not want to expose his identity fully because his actual mission yet to start. His real mission will start from the day he comes back again. Please read the following verses:
John 6:14-15 Seeing the miracles of Jesus people said- " He is truly that Prophet who is supposed to come to this world". Jesus realized that the people are coming to catch him to make their king forcefully. So, he slipped off & went back to mountain alone himself.
People wanted to make him king. It was not their fault because it was predicted like that in their scripture. But Jesus knew that time has not come yet. It will come true during his 2nd coming. So he was avoiding the crowd & did not disclose his identity fully as Christ. Paul & others took this opportunity of confusion & tried to equate many things to prove that Jesus is God. But a man with common sense will not accept your equation. It is a very bad mathematics.
Yes, I agree that ONLY GOD IS A CREATOR. Jesus is NOT a creator because he is NOT a God. Whatever you have quoted from Old Testament, those are all about One Supreme God. BESIDES HIM THERE IS NO GOD. So, Adam is not God, Abraham is not God, Moses is not God, Jesus is not God, Mohammad is not God. There is no god except Him. This is the concept of Old Testament. They are all about One Real God. They are not about Jesus.
You are quoting from Revelation. But remember, it is the Vision seen by John in his subconscious mind. Some of it may be true, some may not be true. The explanation of this vision also may differ person to person. This type of prediction is made by Nostradamus, by Jane Dickson & many others. I do not know why this type of visions are included in Bible? However, I also want to discuss about Revelation at a later date.
I did not give any quotations from Qur’an, because you do not know Qur'an. I wanted to show you from your own scripture that how misguided you are.
You said a real Christian also do righteous deeds. But what is your standard of right & wrong? For example, if you kiss a girl on the street of Europe, it is not an offence. But if you do the same thing in India, you commit an offence & you will be punished for public nuisance. So you need a standard. Laws & Commandments give that standard.
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At 01:19 AM 5/29/2012, you wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
So, you are saying that the BagvatGhita is also the word of God? Interesting. You seem to believe that at least parts of the Old Testament are the Word of God and you seem to think maybe even some of the New Testament are the Word of God? Again, interesting.And, obviously, you believe the entire Qur'an is the Word of God.
Is your entire basis for believing that the Qur'an being the Word of God is that you have the originals? Think about this, just because someone has an original document, doesn't make it the truth! I have never read the Qur'an, so you have me at a disadvantage. I apologize if I have insulted you by my words about your Holy Book. I find no reason to read that Book, for I already know God! I have read little bits and pieces and frankly, it looks like someone tried to copy sections of the Old Testament and rewrite them, and did a poor job at it, in parts of your book.
But, in the words of Jesus 'greater love has no man than he lay down his life for his friends'. I am willing that you not like my words, so that you might be saved from the darkness that is in this world and the one to come.
But I have a question for you, based on your beliefs do you know God personally?
Has His Spirit come and made His home in you?
Do you hear the voice of Jesus in your heart?
These things have been promised to those who trust in, rely upon and cling to Jesus Christ as their savior and Lord.
What promises do you have like this in the Qur'an?
Dear Khalilur,
So, you are saying that the BagvatGhita is also the word of God? Interesting. You seem to believe that at least parts of the Old Testament are the Word of God and you seem to think maybe even some of the New Testament are the Word of God? Again, interesting.And, obviously, you believe the entire Qur'an is the Word of God.
Is your entire basis for believing that the Qur'an being the Word of God is that you have the originals? Think about this, just because someone has an original document, doesn't make it the truth! I have never read the Qur'an, so you have me at a disadvantage. I apologize if I have insulted you by my words about your Holy Book. I find no reason to read that Book, for I already know God! I have read little bits and pieces and frankly, it looks like someone tried to copy sections of the Old Testament and rewrite them, and did a poor job at it, in parts of your book.
But, in the words of Jesus 'greater love has no man than he lay down his life for his friends'. I am willing that you not like my words, so that you might be saved from the darkness that is in this world and the one to come.
But I have a question for you, based on your beliefs do you know God personally?
Has His Spirit come and made His home in you?
Do you hear the voice of Jesus in your heart?
These things have been promised to those who trust in, rely upon and cling to Jesus Christ as their savior and Lord.
What promises do you have like this in the Qur'an?
KHALILUR RAHMAN
God has created this universe & He has blessings for all creatures. All the people of this world are enjoying the benefits which God had bestowed on us. A man from Japan is enjoying the similar sun shine which a man from USA is getting. Similarly God has guided all the people of the world by sending his Messengers time to time.. Qur'an says- I have sent my messengers to all the nations/tribes/races of the world to show my path of light. Do not think that God will send his man only to lamb of Israel & the remaining millions of people will remain in dark. This is not justice. God cannot do any unjust to any nation. So, the people of Japan, China, India, Mongoloid & all others received the Messengers of God & his books. Problem is that these books have been corrupted with the passage of time. God has sent new Messengers & books to correct these people again.
Qur'an is the last book from God sent for the whole mankind. You will find many things in it similar to Old Testament because it is the continuation of the religion of Abraham. It is the same God of Abraham, Jacob, Moses & Jesus.
Every religion, basically, has two parts : 1. Faith, 2. Righteous deeds. Both the parts are required for a complete religion. Only faith or only righteous deeds are not good enough for a total salvation. Just for your knowledge, I want to tell you what we mean by faith in Islam. Faith in Islam means having a total faith on : 1. One God Almighty, 2. His Angels, 3. All his Messengers, 4. All his books 5. Day of Judgment.
Righteous deeds of Islam are defined & prescribed by our Shariah( Laws& Commandments ).
Qur'an & Hadith (Tradition of Prophet) is the light of God for whole mankind & it will remain with us till the day of judgment.. As long as people will cling to it, there is no fear of going to astray.
When I read Qur'an, God talks to me, I hear Him & I reply also. And when I obey Him, I get His pleasure & love. When I need anything, I pray to Him & ask from Him. In fact for everything I rely on Him. That is my total submission to Him. Muslim means who makes a total submission to God.
My God promises the heaven for me & His satisfaction on me in this world & hereafter. This is the ultimate success for a man.
There is a Muslim saint in Dhaka. He gives only 21 days training & then you can hear, see & talk to God. Your hearing the voice of Jesus or seeing the God or talking to Holy spirit, these are all similar type of activities which does not have any bearing on religion. It may be very exciting, but mostly these are inspired by Devil. When we discuss about Holy Spirit, we will talk more about it.
Qur'an is the last book from God sent for the whole mankind. You will find many things in it similar to Old Testament because it is the continuation of the religion of Abraham. It is the same God of Abraham, Jacob, Moses & Jesus.
Every religion, basically, has two parts : 1. Faith, 2. Righteous deeds. Both the parts are required for a complete religion. Only faith or only righteous deeds are not good enough for a total salvation. Just for your knowledge, I want to tell you what we mean by faith in Islam. Faith in Islam means having a total faith on : 1. One God Almighty, 2. His Angels, 3. All his Messengers, 4. All his books 5. Day of Judgment.
Righteous deeds of Islam are defined & prescribed by our Shariah( Laws& Commandments ).
Qur'an & Hadith (Tradition of Prophet) is the light of God for whole mankind & it will remain with us till the day of judgment.. As long as people will cling to it, there is no fear of going to astray.
When I read Qur'an, God talks to me, I hear Him & I reply also. And when I obey Him, I get His pleasure & love. When I need anything, I pray to Him & ask from Him. In fact for everything I rely on Him. That is my total submission to Him. Muslim means who makes a total submission to God.
My God promises the heaven for me & His satisfaction on me in this world & hereafter. This is the ultimate success for a man.
There is a Muslim saint in Dhaka. He gives only 21 days training & then you can hear, see & talk to God. Your hearing the voice of Jesus or seeing the God or talking to Holy spirit, these are all similar type of activities which does not have any bearing on religion. It may be very exciting, but mostly these are inspired by Devil. When we discuss about Holy Spirit, we will talk more about it.
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At 01:03 AM 5/29/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Jesus is the Christ. That is, He is the anointed One of God. He is the One God chose to send to save the world. He is the redeemer, He is Jehovah of Hosts.
You asked me to reply from the Bible. Everything I just wrote is from the Bible. But to be more specific for you, I will now show you how Jesus is Begotten of God.
First, here are a bunch of scriptures that refer to Jesus as the Only begotten son of God, from both the Old Testament (Psalms) and the New......
""I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You." - (Psa 2:7 NKJV)
"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." - (Jhn 1:14 NKJV)
"No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him." - (Jhn 1:18 NKJV)
"In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him." - (1Jo 4:9 NKJV)
Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."" So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."" - (Mat 1:18-23 NKJV)
So, you see that Mary was inseminated by God. I don't know exactly how He did it, but He came to Here as the Holy Spirit and she was impregnated by Him, so that her egg was impregnated with God's seed.
Do you know why this was necessary? Because the seed of all man is sinful, but the seed of God is pure and holy. If Jesus was the son of Joseph, His death on the cross could never have paid for our sins, for He would have had to die for His own sin. Jesus was born of the woman, in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh, but WITHOUT sin.
Mary was a human being, therefore, sinful. Jesus was born of God, who is sinless. He was fully God AND fully human (man). Romans 8:3 : For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God [did] by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh.
So, this is your answer to how God begot Jesus.
Dear Khalilur,
Jesus is the Christ. That is, He is the anointed One of God. He is the One God chose to send to save the world. He is the redeemer, He is Jehovah of Hosts.
You asked me to reply from the Bible. Everything I just wrote is from the Bible. But to be more specific for you, I will now show you how Jesus is Begotten of God.
First, here are a bunch of scriptures that refer to Jesus as the Only begotten son of God, from both the Old Testament (Psalms) and the New......
""I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You." - (Psa 2:7 NKJV)
"And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth." - (Jhn 1:14 NKJV)
"No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him." - (Jhn 1:18 NKJV)
"In this the love of God was manifested toward us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through Him." - (1Jo 4:9 NKJV)
Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins."" So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: "Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel," which is translated, "God with us."" - (Mat 1:18-23 NKJV)
So, you see that Mary was inseminated by God. I don't know exactly how He did it, but He came to Here as the Holy Spirit and she was impregnated by Him, so that her egg was impregnated with God's seed.
Do you know why this was necessary? Because the seed of all man is sinful, but the seed of God is pure and holy. If Jesus was the son of Joseph, His death on the cross could never have paid for our sins, for He would have had to die for His own sin. Jesus was born of the woman, in the LIKENESS of sinful flesh, but WITHOUT sin.
Mary was a human being, therefore, sinful. Jesus was born of God, who is sinless. He was fully God AND fully human (man). Romans 8:3 : For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God [did] by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh.
So, this is your answer to how God begot Jesus.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
I am afraid of replying your this letter. In this letter you have uttered some sentences which are so sinful, you have made some allegations against God which are so heinous & sinful, I am afraid to discuss them. Oh God, please forgive me if I utter these sinful words. You claimed that Mary was inseminated by God & Jesus is the seed of God. All quotations you have given abovedoes not say that. Holy Spirit came to Mary & informed about a son. Then she was pregnant by the Power of God. God does not need to put his seed to make somebody pregnant. He says- " Be" & it is there. How Adam was created? He did not have mother & father. Do you think he is having the seed of God.Astagfirullah. May God forgive us for this uttering. Do you know, the present science does not need any sperm or egg to make a man? They will take a tissue from you & can make a complete man out of it. A man can do it, then what about God? He is all powerful & most scientific. Do not give this heinous allegation to God. It will make Jesus ashamed in front of God. God says in Qur'an- He is above all these allegations they are making. He also declared His Glory & Power in Qur'an-" If I want to destroy Jesus & his mother, can anybody stop it ?" God addressed the Christians in Qur'an & says - " Oh the people of Books, do not say Trinity." In other place He says-"Certainly they do blasphemy who say God is Christ, the son of Mary. But Christ said- Oh Children of Israel, Worship God who is my Lord & your Lord".
Jesus does not have seed of God, but certainly he has seed of Abraham as you claimed before. He has seed of David also as described here-""He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David." - (Luke 1:32 NKJV). Here it is said that David is the father of Jesus.
But it is very certain that Jesus carried the seed of Mary, because every child get 50% DNA from his father & 50% DNA from his mother. This is science & proved. So, Jesus got his seed from Mary, then from David & from Abraham also. If you say, all seeds of man is sinful, then Jesus was also having sinful seeds from his ancestors. You cannot call him innocent.
Jesus does not have seed of God, but certainly he has seed of Abraham as you claimed before. He has seed of David also as described here-""He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David." - (Luke 1:32 NKJV). Here it is said that David is the father of Jesus.
But it is very certain that Jesus carried the seed of Mary, because every child get 50% DNA from his father & 50% DNA from his mother. This is science & proved. So, Jesus got his seed from Mary, then from David & from Abraham also. If you say, all seeds of man is sinful, then Jesus was also having sinful seeds from his ancestors. You cannot call him innocent.
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At 10:34 AM 5/30/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Thank you for sharing your beliefs with me.
I believe that Islam is not from the true God, but that a messenger of Lucifer or Lucifer himself appeared to Mohammed in that cave. He was the one who choked him and told him to write. My God doesn't appear to men like that anywhere in the Bible. The closest to this is when He appeared to Jacob and He wrestled with Him and Jacob said "i will not let you go until you bless me", so the angel of the Lord touched his thigh and Jacob had to walk with a limp after that. It was after this encounter that Jacobs name was changed to Israel (governed of God).
The Holy Spirit that Jesus promised in John 15, has come and made His home in me. Are you telling me that Jesus promised to send me an evil spirit?
Is Jesus a prophet of God? If so, why do you say this?
You obviously totally reject all of the teachings of the Bible, so on what basis doyou call Him a prophet?
The Bible (new testament) was written by God through those who actually walked on earth with Jesus, yet you rely on your book, written 500 years later? Talk about bad math!
Dear Khalilur,
Thank you for sharing your beliefs with me.
I believe that Islam is not from the true God, but that a messenger of Lucifer or Lucifer himself appeared to Mohammed in that cave. He was the one who choked him and told him to write. My God doesn't appear to men like that anywhere in the Bible. The closest to this is when He appeared to Jacob and He wrestled with Him and Jacob said "i will not let you go until you bless me", so the angel of the Lord touched his thigh and Jacob had to walk with a limp after that. It was after this encounter that Jacobs name was changed to Israel (governed of God).
The Holy Spirit that Jesus promised in John 15, has come and made His home in me. Are you telling me that Jesus promised to send me an evil spirit?
Is Jesus a prophet of God? If so, why do you say this?
You obviously totally reject all of the teachings of the Bible, so on what basis doyou call Him a prophet?
The Bible (new testament) was written by God through those who actually walked on earth with Jesus, yet you rely on your book, written 500 years later? Talk about bad math!
KHALILUR RAHMAN
What you have come to know about the incident in cave is not correct. It was not God who came to him. The correct picture is that the Angel Arc Gabriel came to that cave & told him - "Read". He said -" I cannot read". The Angel again told him same thing & he replied same. Then Arc Gabriel embraced him very hard & said- “Read, read in the name of your Lord who created mankind from a clot of blood". Mohammad repeated this sentence after Gabriel. The angel read 4 more verses & Mohammad repeated after the Angel. That was the start of coming Qur'an to this earth. It took 23 years for whole Qur'an to be revealed. I must inform you here that Mohammad could not read & write. He was illiterate. Any verses coming from God, he memorized it on the spot & his companions used to write it instantly.
What you believe about Islam is not correct. We do not worship Lucifer. We pray to One God Almighty, God of Abraham, Jacob, Moses, David & Jesus. We do everything in the name of God, We never do anything in the name of any man, any prophet, any Angel or any Saint.
I think there is some misunderstanding about the meaning of Prophet. In Islam the Prophet means any Messenger of God sent to this earth to guide mankind.. In that sense, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus & many others we do not know their names but sent by God, are Prophets of God. Your definition of Prophet may be slightly different.
Certainly we believe that Jesus is a Prophet.Jesus himself said that he is sent by God & he talks only those which he hears from God. He showed many miracles to prove that he is sent by God. Old Testament predicted his coming. Qur'an also certifies his prophet hood. His name appeared in Qur'an 25 times. There is a chapter in Qur'an which is named Mary, the mother of Jesus. You did not read Qur'an. But I request you, if you have time, please read only those portion related to Jesus. Nothing wrong in it. I have read all Hindu Scriptures, Buddha Scripture &your Old & New Testament.
Jesus did not promise about Holy Spirit in John 15 & 16. It is the wrong interpretation. The original word in Latin Bible is Peraclitos or Periclitos. Different people have translated this word differently in English. Somebody says it is Comforter, some says it is Helper, some says it is Counselor, some says it is Advocate. Jesus said - I will go back to God & pray to send you this Comforter/Counselor/Helper/Advocate.. Certainly it is not Holy Spirit because Holy Spirit was present even before the birth of Jesus. It is about coming of a Prophet who will be sent for whole mankind.
What you believe about Islam is not correct. We do not worship Lucifer. We pray to One God Almighty, God of Abraham, Jacob, Moses, David & Jesus. We do everything in the name of God, We never do anything in the name of any man, any prophet, any Angel or any Saint.
I think there is some misunderstanding about the meaning of Prophet. In Islam the Prophet means any Messenger of God sent to this earth to guide mankind.. In that sense, Abraham, Moses, David, Jesus & many others we do not know their names but sent by God, are Prophets of God. Your definition of Prophet may be slightly different.
Certainly we believe that Jesus is a Prophet.Jesus himself said that he is sent by God & he talks only those which he hears from God. He showed many miracles to prove that he is sent by God. Old Testament predicted his coming. Qur'an also certifies his prophet hood. His name appeared in Qur'an 25 times. There is a chapter in Qur'an which is named Mary, the mother of Jesus. You did not read Qur'an. But I request you, if you have time, please read only those portion related to Jesus. Nothing wrong in it. I have read all Hindu Scriptures, Buddha Scripture &your Old & New Testament.
Jesus did not promise about Holy Spirit in John 15 & 16. It is the wrong interpretation. The original word in Latin Bible is Peraclitos or Periclitos. Different people have translated this word differently in English. Somebody says it is Comforter, some says it is Helper, some says it is Counselor, some says it is Advocate. Jesus said - I will go back to God & pray to send you this Comforter/Counselor/Helper/Advocate.. Certainly it is not Holy Spirit because Holy Spirit was present even before the birth of Jesus. It is about coming of a Prophet who will be sent for whole mankind.