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KHALILUR RAHMAN
What I understand from your this letter, the death means spiritually dead & you are born again when you are filled with spirit of God. Adam & Eve committed sin & they became spiritually dead. They were reborn when they received the spirit of God. Same happened to Abraham, Moses , David & their followers as well. They were spiritually dead & when they received the Spirit of God, they were reborn again. Am I correct till now? Please confirm that I am correct till now.
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At 07:59 AM 6/5/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Well, not exactly....
Before Christ died, no one could be born again. So Adam, Eve, Moses, Abraham and all the prophets were not born again. They may have had the Spirit of God with them, but they were still only born of the seed of Adam and they were of his fallen nature.
Jesus' death is the only thing that wipes away our list of sins and unless one is washed in the blood of the lamb (Jesus), they are still dead in their trespasses and sins.
To be born again means that your very nature becomes new. You are now daily transformed into the image of the Son of God and the ultimate end will be when you go to heaven and you will see Him and you will be like Him, for you are born of His Spirit.
Dear Khalilur,
Well, not exactly....
Before Christ died, no one could be born again. So Adam, Eve, Moses, Abraham and all the prophets were not born again. They may have had the Spirit of God with them, but they were still only born of the seed of Adam and they were of his fallen nature.
Jesus' death is the only thing that wipes away our list of sins and unless one is washed in the blood of the lamb (Jesus), they are still dead in their trespasses and sins.
To be born again means that your very nature becomes new. You are now daily transformed into the image of the Son of God and the ultimate end will be when you go to heaven and you will see Him and you will be like Him, for you are born of His Spirit.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
What you mean is that Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses & David did not get Salvation & they will not go to heaven to stay with God. Similar status for their followers also, am I correct?
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At 09:20 AM 6/5/2012, you wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Who is the 'We' in this verse of the Quar'an?50:6SuratQaf (Sahih International)
“Have they not looked at the heaven above them - how We structured it and adorned it and [how] it has no rifts?”
Dear Khalilur,
Who is the 'We' in this verse of the Quar'an?50:6SuratQaf (Sahih International)
“Have they not looked at the heaven above them - how We structured it and adorned it and [how] it has no rifts?”
KHALILUR RAHMAN
This is the style of Arabic language & of many other language also. For respect, they use plural instead of singular. When your President gives speech, he never says- "I have done this". Rather he says- We have done this.. This is the style. "We" does not mean that God is plural. Qur'an says- " He is Allah the One and Only , Allah the Eternal Absolute , He neither beget nor is He begotten , and there is none like unto Him"
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At 11:35 AM 6/5/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
I found this verse in the Quar'an, it appears that you cannot actually believe anything I say as a Christian, since to do so would apparently be to reject Allah.
Surat al Bakarah 2:120.....And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah; no protector or helper.
I believe God is big enough and loving enough and perfect enough to handle any question We have. I also believe that God said if we seek Him with all of our heart we will find Him.
What proof do you have that your religion is the truth of God? I mean , if I was to follow your religion, how can I know that it is the truth path of God, as opposed to Hindu, Jehovah's witness, Mormon, Zoroasterism, Humanism, etc. etc.
Dear Khalilur,
I found this verse in the Quar'an, it appears that you cannot actually believe anything I say as a Christian, since to do so would apparently be to reject Allah.
Surat al Bakarah 2:120.....And never will the Jews or the Christians approve of you until you follow their religion. Say, "Indeed, the guidance of Allah is the [only] guidance." If you were to follow their desires after what has come to you of knowledge, you would have against Allah; no protector or helper.
I believe God is big enough and loving enough and perfect enough to handle any question We have. I also believe that God said if we seek Him with all of our heart we will find Him.
What proof do you have that your religion is the truth of God? I mean , if I was to follow your religion, how can I know that it is the truth path of God, as opposed to Hindu, Jehovah's witness, Mormon, Zoroasterism, Humanism, etc. etc.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
It is good that you have also started quoting from Qur'an. Qur'an itself is an everlasting miracle of God. You read the verses related to Jesus or Moses or Abraham & about many other Prophets, you will find the truth in it. Qur'an speaks many things about this universe, about sun, moon & stars, about nature, water cycles, embryology etc. But you will not find a single verse which is conflicting with the modern science. This is the miracle of Qur’an. Qur’an itself is also the light, way to God.
If you talk about the miracles of Prophet of Islam, there are hundreds of them, much more than the miracles of Jesus. Description of these miracles is not in Qur'an. If you read Hadith, you will find them all. Daily activities of the Prophet, his speeches, his actions, advices, miracles, in short, his whole life is described in Hadith.
God had sent all his Prophets with some specific miracles as a proof that he has come from God. Prophet of Islam also had them. But his everlasting miracle is the Qur'an which will remain in this world till Doom's Day & anybody can test its truth.
Prophet of Islam is the way of life for whole mankind, he is the light of Truth. Whole Universe is blessed by him. God said to Abraham- "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice."" Gen 22:18 . Prophet of Islam is the seed of Abraham through his first born son Ismail.
If you talk about the miracles of Prophet of Islam, there are hundreds of them, much more than the miracles of Jesus. Description of these miracles is not in Qur'an. If you read Hadith, you will find them all. Daily activities of the Prophet, his speeches, his actions, advices, miracles, in short, his whole life is described in Hadith.
God had sent all his Prophets with some specific miracles as a proof that he has come from God. Prophet of Islam also had them. But his everlasting miracle is the Qur'an which will remain in this world till Doom's Day & anybody can test its truth.
Prophet of Islam is the way of life for whole mankind, he is the light of Truth. Whole Universe is blessed by him. God said to Abraham- "In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice."" Gen 22:18 . Prophet of Islam is the seed of Abraham through his first born son Ismail.
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At 10:26 AM 6/5/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Here's some old testament scriptures showing that Jesus is the Son of God and God the Son .......
Isa 7:14"Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.
The name Immanuel means "God with us" . So, does this mean that God was with us in Jesus or that by sending Jesus God was telling us that He is 'with' us in the sense that He is for us?
Here are verses written in Psalm 2. Who is speaking?
Psa 2:7-12 "I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, 'You [are] My Son, Today I have begotten You. Ask of Me, and I will give [You] The nations [for] Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth [for] Your possession. You shall break [fn] them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel.' "
" Serve the LORD with fear, And rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, [fn] lest He [fn] be angry, And you perish [in] the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all those who put their trust in Him.
Again who is speaking here? I believe this is Jesus, the Son of God, who has the right and reason to tell people to trust in Him.
Ok, once again here is a scripture foretelling the coming of Jesus, the Son of God, as also being called "the mighty God".
Isa 9:6For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Notice all the names the Lord gives to His Son! The mighty God! Everlasting Father! Wonderful, Counselor! God labels Jesus with terms that refer to He Himself.
I think God is making it very clear that Jesus was not just a prophet. He was the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
Dear Khalilur,
Here's some old testament scriptures showing that Jesus is the Son of God and God the Son .......
Isa 7:14"Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.
The name Immanuel means "God with us" . So, does this mean that God was with us in Jesus or that by sending Jesus God was telling us that He is 'with' us in the sense that He is for us?
Here are verses written in Psalm 2. Who is speaking?
Psa 2:7-12 "I will declare the decree: The LORD has said to Me, 'You [are] My Son, Today I have begotten You. Ask of Me, and I will give [You] The nations [for] Your inheritance, And the ends of the earth [for] Your possession. You shall break [fn] them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a potter's vessel.' "
" Serve the LORD with fear, And rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, [fn] lest He [fn] be angry, And you perish [in] the way, When His wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all those who put their trust in Him.
Again who is speaking here? I believe this is Jesus, the Son of God, who has the right and reason to tell people to trust in Him.
Ok, once again here is a scripture foretelling the coming of Jesus, the Son of God, as also being called "the mighty God".
Isa 9:6For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Notice all the names the Lord gives to His Son! The mighty God! Everlasting Father! Wonderful, Counselor! God labels Jesus with terms that refer to He Himself.
I think God is making it very clear that Jesus was not just a prophet. He was the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.