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[email protected] wrote:
At 09:19 AM 6/8/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Amen! The fear of the Lord is the beginning of life!
I could not agree more! To do rightly, to love justice, to walk humbly with our God is the whole will of God for man.
So why do people reject His free gift? It is because the fear of God is not truly in them.
To fear God is to submit to what He says.
The problem with people is that they have rejected His Word. They accuse God, saying that He was unable to keep His book pure.
They deny the authority of scripture by doubting that Jesus was telling the truth when He said ' heaven and earth shall pass away, But MY words will by no means pass away." Mark 13:31
They deny the Father, for they reject the Son.
1Jo 2:23Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
Dear Khalilur,
Amen! The fear of the Lord is the beginning of life!
I could not agree more! To do rightly, to love justice, to walk humbly with our God is the whole will of God for man.
So why do people reject His free gift? It is because the fear of God is not truly in them.
To fear God is to submit to what He says.
The problem with people is that they have rejected His Word. They accuse God, saying that He was unable to keep His book pure.
They deny the authority of scripture by doubting that Jesus was telling the truth when He said ' heaven and earth shall pass away, But MY words will by no means pass away." Mark 13:31
They deny the Father, for they reject the Son.
1Jo 2:23Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
It is clear from your argument & logic that you people do not believe in Old Testament of Bible. In my last two letters, I have quoted some verses from Old Testament. But you did not consider those verses. You just tell me whether those verses are true or false. If you declare them false, I do not have any say. But you must be bold enough to speak out what you believe.
Paulian Christian is based mainly on two assumptions:
1. Adam has committed sin; so, all his descendants are sinned by birth.
2. Jesus has died on cross to pay for the sins of all mankind who believes him.
But Bible speaks just opposite to it.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sins is the soul that dies. The child does not share the guilt of the parent, nor the parent the guilt of the child
Jeremiah 31:30. It says- "Each person will pay for his own sin. You eat green apple, you are the one to get sick"
"(Deuteronomy 24:16) "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
"( 2 chronicles 7:14) God appeared to Solomon & said- "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
Above four verses of Old Testament show that,
1. No man is sinned by birth
2. Child does not share the sin of parents
3. Nobody can pay for your sin, each person will pay for his own sin
4. God will forgive your sin if you pray to him. So, it is obvious that God doesn't need any sacrifice to forgive sins, so crucifixion makes no sense .
We see very clearly that the assumptions of Paulian Christianity on which it stands are not true & not supported by Bible. It is not supported by logic & justice as well.
Paulian Christian is based mainly on two assumptions:
1. Adam has committed sin; so, all his descendants are sinned by birth.
2. Jesus has died on cross to pay for the sins of all mankind who believes him.
But Bible speaks just opposite to it.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sins is the soul that dies. The child does not share the guilt of the parent, nor the parent the guilt of the child
Jeremiah 31:30. It says- "Each person will pay for his own sin. You eat green apple, you are the one to get sick"
"(Deuteronomy 24:16) "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
"( 2 chronicles 7:14) God appeared to Solomon & said- "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
Above four verses of Old Testament show that,
1. No man is sinned by birth
2. Child does not share the sin of parents
3. Nobody can pay for your sin, each person will pay for his own sin
4. God will forgive your sin if you pray to him. So, it is obvious that God doesn't need any sacrifice to forgive sins, so crucifixion makes no sense .
We see very clearly that the assumptions of Paulian Christianity on which it stands are not true & not supported by Bible. It is not supported by logic & justice as well.
[email protected] wrote:
At 12:50 PM 6/9/2012, you wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
In this email to me you wrote:
It is clear from your argument & logic that you people do not believein Old Testament of Bible.
My answer: That is silly. I have quoted to you MULITPLE times from the Old Testament and have answered you point by point everything you asked (and if I missed any, I apologize).
Now for your current email:
YOU WROTE:
You just tell me whether those verses are true or false. If you declare
them false, I do not have any say. But you must be bold enough to
speak out what you believe.
OK. I can be bold. You are wrong. In fact, it is again silly that you are trying to convince me that the Bible is NOT the Word of God, that it has been changed by man, by using the Bible itself. I guess I understand the strategy, if you can prove one part of my beliefs are not true, then the rest will fall like a house of cards. But, when my belief is based on the fact that the Bible itself is ENTIRELY the Word of God, then my house is built on a rock (as Jesus said). So you can attack any point and it doesn't weaken it, for it is whole and I bring nothing to it. I simply submit to it.
Because your following question also deals with this same issue, i will answer more fully below.
YOU WROTE:
Paulian Christian is based mainly on two assumptions:
1. Adam has committed sin; so, all his descendants are sinned by birth.
2. Jesus has died on cross to pay for the sins of all mankind who believes him.
But Bible speaks just opposite to it.
Ezekiel 18: 20 The soul that sins is the soul that dies. The child
does not share the guilt of the parent, nor the parent the guilt of the child
MY RESPONSE:
Ezekiel is writing to the people of Israel here. He is warning them exhorting them not to sin, because the soul that sins WILL die! He is making it clear to them that it is NOT because their fathers sinned that they are dying, it is because THEY sinned. He is strongly encouraging them to personal responsibility. He is NOT establishing some doctrine that eliminates the sin nature. The day that Adam and Eve ate of that tree, they indeed died (but not physically, but spiritually. Physical death was eventual, not immediate.) Their offspring were born in their image (not in the image of God)
And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot [a son] in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth (Genesis 5:3)
Seth was born in the image of Adam, therefore he died at age 912. The Bible does not say that Seth ever sinned. WHY DID HE DIE? It was because he was not born in the image of God (who is Eternal), but in the image of Adam, who was now doomed to die because of his sin, for all people sin because it is in their nature to do so.
Jeremiah 31: 30. It says- "Each person will pay for his own sin. You
eat green apple, you are the one to get sick"
MY RESPONSE: ( Please, listen to this scripture. The Context is what you need to see in order to understand the truth that God is teaching here)
Here is the CONTEXT of the Scripture you sent here:
""Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man and the seed of beast." - (Jer 31:27 NKJV)
"In those days they shall say no more: 'The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children's teeth are set on edge.'" - (Jer 31:29 NKJV)
""But every one shall die for his own iniquity; every man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge." - (Jer 31:30 NKJV)
""Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah--" - (Jer 31:31 NKJV)
""not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD." - (Jer 31:32 NKJV)
""But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." - (Jer 31:33 NKJV)
""No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."" - (Jer 31:34 NKJV)
So, two things here: One, just like above, the Lord is making it clear that we cannot blame OUR problems of death on our fathers. We all must take responsibility, for we have ALL sinned.
Secondly: The LORD states here that He is foretelling of a time to come as well as dealing with their need for individual responsibility now.
He is foretelling of a time to come (Vs. 31 "In those days they shall say no more"......). And the time to come will be very special. It is a time when He will " make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".. (by the way, I believe, you said that God DID NOT say He was going to make a new covenant , well, here is a verse that says He would.)
YOU WROTE:
"(Deuteronomy 24: 16) "The fathers shall not be put to death for thechildren, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers:every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
MY RESPONSE;
OK, let's look at the context for this verse: I just read the Chapter.... here's what it says:
The context here is that the Lord is instructing the people of Israel His laws and how the people should treat each other. So, one of the rules is that each person who does wrong should pay for their wrong doing themselves. This has nothing to do with Original Sin. It has to do with individual sin.
Now, before I go on to your next verse let me point out what the Bible DOES say about Original sin and how you can tell the concept is not "Pauline" but rather, Paul got his ideas from the Old Testament.
Pslam 51: 5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me. [If children are born without sin, how is it the David was 'brought forth in iniquity and in sin my mother conceived me'?]
Ps.58:3: "the wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth speaking lies.[Again, not innocent from birth].
Job, often said to be the oldest book in the Bible says: Job 25:4: "How then can man be righteous before God? Or how can he be pure who is born of a woman?"
What do you think about his? Does the evidence bear out that mankind is sinful through and through, or that we have the tendency to purity and holiness?
One last verse: When Adam and Eve sinned God CURSED the earth and the animals, the serpent, the man and the woman. That pretty much includes everyone and everything. The proof of that is that EVERYONE THAT IS BORN.....DIES!
YOU WROTE:
"( 2 chronicles 7: 14) God appeared to Solomon & said- "If my
people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and
pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I
hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
MY REPONSE:
Yes indeed, this verse is true....for the people of the Nation of Israel (and at the time of the prophecy specifically.) For they lived in Covenant with God, AS A NATION. Yes, there were promises made to individuals, but overall the covenant was made to the people as a whole, as born out in what we saw above about the New Covenant that God was going to make (and since has).
YOU WROTE:
Above four verses of Old Testament show that,
1. No man is sinned by birth.............. (I believe I have shown that people ARE born with a sin nature)
2. Child does not share the sin of parents (REPEAT above)
3. Nobody can pay for your sin, each person will pay for his own sin (Look at all of the Old testament SIN sacrifices offered to the Lord. Over and over again to cover the peoples sins.)
4. God will forgive your sin if you pray to him. So, it is obviousthat God doesn't need any sacrifice to forgive sins, so crucifixionmakes no sense .(OK, let's look at a few more verses here to help you see what the Bible say about the need for sacrifices, named the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross) :
Here's just a few of the many:
"And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him." - (Lev 4:26 KJV)
"And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat of the lamb is taken away from the sacrifice of the peace offerings; and the priest shall burn them upon the altar, according to the offerings made by fire unto the LORD: and the priest shall make an atonement for his sin that he hath committed, and it shall be forgiven him." - (Lev 4:35 KJV)
"This is the law of the burnt offering, of the meat offering, and of the sin offering, and of the trespass offering, and of the consecrations, and of the sacrifice of the peace offerings;" - (Lev 7:37 KJV)
"And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance: and they shall bring their offering, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD, for their ignorance:" - (Num 15:25 KJV)
And finally:
YOU WROTE:
We see very clearly that the assumptions of Paulian Christianity onwhich it stands are not true & not supported by Bible. It is notsupported by logic & justice as well.
MY RESPONSE:
I believe I have carefully answered each of your criticisms point by point and shown that it is YOUR point of view that isthe one that is un-biblical, therefore it is ill-logical and unjustified.
Dear Khalilur,
In this email to me you wrote:
It is clear from your argument & logic that you people do not believein Old Testament of Bible.
My answer: That is silly. I have quoted to you MULITPLE times from the Old Testament and have answered you point by point everything you asked (and if I missed any, I apologize).
Now for your current email:
YOU WROTE:
You just tell me whether those verses are true or false. If you declare
them false, I do not have any say. But you must be bold enough to
speak out what you believe.
OK. I can be bold. You are wrong. In fact, it is again silly that you are trying to convince me that the Bible is NOT the Word of God, that it has been changed by man, by using the Bible itself. I guess I understand the strategy, if you can prove one part of my beliefs are not true, then the rest will fall like a house of cards. But, when my belief is based on the fact that the Bible itself is ENTIRELY the Word of God, then my house is built on a rock (as Jesus said). So you can attack any point and it doesn't weaken it, for it is whole and I bring nothing to it. I simply submit to it.
Because your following question also deals with this same issue, i will answer more fully below.
YOU WROTE:
Paulian Christian is based mainly on two assumptions:
1. Adam has committed sin; so, all his descendants are sinned by birth.
2. Jesus has died on cross to pay for the sins of all mankind who believes him.
But Bible speaks just opposite to it.
Ezekiel 18: 20 The soul that sins is the soul that dies. The child
does not share the guilt of the parent, nor the parent the guilt of the child
MY RESPONSE:
Ezekiel is writing to the people of Israel here. He is warning them exhorting them not to sin, because the soul that sins WILL die! He is making it clear to them that it is NOT because their fathers sinned that they are dying, it is because THEY sinned. He is strongly encouraging them to personal responsibility. He is NOT establishing some doctrine that eliminates the sin nature. The day that Adam and Eve ate of that tree, they indeed died (but not physically, but spiritually. Physical death was eventual, not immediate.) Their offspring were born in their image (not in the image of God)
And Adam lived one hundred and thirty years, and begot [a son] in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth (Genesis 5:3)
Seth was born in the image of Adam, therefore he died at age 912. The Bible does not say that Seth ever sinned. WHY DID HE DIE? It was because he was not born in the image of God (who is Eternal), but in the image of Adam, who was now doomed to die because of his sin, for all people sin because it is in their nature to do so.
Jeremiah 31: 30. It says- "Each person will pay for his own sin. You
eat green apple, you are the one to get sick"
MY RESPONSE: ( Please, listen to this scripture. The Context is what you need to see in order to understand the truth that God is teaching here)
Here is the CONTEXT of the Scripture you sent here:
""Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man and the seed of beast." - (Jer 31:27 NKJV)
"In those days they shall say no more: 'The fathers have eaten sour grapes, And the children's teeth are set on edge.'" - (Jer 31:29 NKJV)
""But every one shall die for his own iniquity; every man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth shall be set on edge." - (Jer 31:30 NKJV)
""Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah--" - (Jer 31:31 NKJV)
""not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD." - (Jer 31:32 NKJV)
""But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the LORD: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people." - (Jer 31:33 NKJV)
""No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the LORD. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."" - (Jer 31:34 NKJV)
So, two things here: One, just like above, the Lord is making it clear that we cannot blame OUR problems of death on our fathers. We all must take responsibility, for we have ALL sinned.
Secondly: The LORD states here that He is foretelling of a time to come as well as dealing with their need for individual responsibility now.
He is foretelling of a time to come (Vs. 31 "In those days they shall say no more"......). And the time to come will be very special. It is a time when He will " make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah".. (by the way, I believe, you said that God DID NOT say He was going to make a new covenant , well, here is a verse that says He would.)
YOU WROTE:
"(Deuteronomy 24: 16) "The fathers shall not be put to death for thechildren, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers:every man shall be put to death for his own sin."
MY RESPONSE;
OK, let's look at the context for this verse: I just read the Chapter.... here's what it says:
The context here is that the Lord is instructing the people of Israel His laws and how the people should treat each other. So, one of the rules is that each person who does wrong should pay for their wrong doing themselves. This has nothing to do with Original Sin. It has to do with individual sin.
Now, before I go on to your next verse let me point out what the Bible DOES say about Original sin and how you can tell the concept is not "Pauline" but rather, Paul got his ideas from the Old Testament.
Pslam 51: 5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me. [If children are born without sin, how is it the David was 'brought forth in iniquity and in sin my mother conceived me'?]
Ps.58:3: "the wicked go astray from the womb, they err from their birth speaking lies.[Again, not innocent from birth].
Job, often said to be the oldest book in the Bible says: Job 25:4: "How then can man be righteous before God? Or how can he be pure who is born of a woman?"
What do you think about his? Does the evidence bear out that mankind is sinful through and through, or that we have the tendency to purity and holiness?
One last verse: When Adam and Eve sinned God CURSED the earth and the animals, the serpent, the man and the woman. That pretty much includes everyone and everything. The proof of that is that EVERYONE THAT IS BORN.....DIES!
YOU WROTE:
"( 2 chronicles 7: 14) God appeared to Solomon & said- "If my
people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and
pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I
hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."
MY REPONSE:
Yes indeed, this verse is true....for the people of the Nation of Israel (and at the time of the prophecy specifically.) For they lived in Covenant with God, AS A NATION. Yes, there were promises made to individuals, but overall the covenant was made to the people as a whole, as born out in what we saw above about the New Covenant that God was going to make (and since has).
YOU WROTE:
Above four verses of Old Testament show that,
1. No man is sinned by birth.............. (I believe I have shown that people ARE born with a sin nature)
2. Child does not share the sin of parents (REPEAT above)
3. Nobody can pay for your sin, each person will pay for his own sin (Look at all of the Old testament SIN sacrifices offered to the Lord. Over and over again to cover the peoples sins.)
4. God will forgive your sin if you pray to him. So, it is obviousthat God doesn't need any sacrifice to forgive sins, so crucifixionmakes no sense .(OK, let's look at a few more verses here to help you see what the Bible say about the need for sacrifices, named the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross) :
Here's just a few of the many:
"And he shall burn all his fat upon the altar, as the fat of the sacrifice of peace offerings: and the priest shall make an atonement for him as concerning his sin, and it shall be forgiven him." - (Lev 4:26 KJV)
"And he shall take away all the fat thereof, as the fat of the lamb is taken away from the sacrifice of the peace offerings; and the priest shall burn them upon the altar, according to the offerings made by fire unto the LORD: and the priest shall make an atonement for his sin that he hath committed, and it shall be forgiven him." - (Lev 4:35 KJV)
"This is the law of the burnt offering, of the meat offering, and of the sin offering, and of the trespass offering, and of the consecrations, and of the sacrifice of the peace offerings;" - (Lev 7:37 KJV)
"And the priest shall make an atonement for all the congregation of the children of Israel, and it shall be forgiven them; for it is ignorance: and they shall bring their offering, a sacrifice made by fire unto the LORD, and their sin offering before the LORD, for their ignorance:" - (Num 15:25 KJV)
And finally:
YOU WROTE:
We see very clearly that the assumptions of Paulian Christianity onwhich it stands are not true & not supported by Bible. It is notsupported by logic & justice as well.
MY RESPONSE:
I believe I have carefully answered each of your criticisms point by point and shown that it is YOUR point of view that isthe one that is un-biblical, therefore it is ill-logical and unjustified.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
I am sorry to say ,Your argument is so funny & ridiculous that it is beyond any common sense also. Seth died not for his sin, but it is natural to die. Qur'an says- All living animals will have the taste of death. Everybody will die whether you commit sin or not. John did not commit any sin, but he died. Even you have made Jesus to die, although we believe that Jesus did not die on cross, he will come back & will die a natural death. You claim yourself to be an innocent man, but you will die, your parents & children will die. You said, we die because we are made in the image of Adam. Ridiculous. Even if something is not made in the image of Adam, it will die. Your dog will die, your donkey will die. Do you think they are made in the image of Adam?
If Adam is made in the image of God, and we are made in the image of Adam, then it becomes obvious that we also carry the image of God. But what you mean by image of God? Does it mean we look like God? Does it mean that God also have hands, feet, head & eyes like us? No, it is not like that. Genesis 1:27 says- " He created them Godlike, reflecting God's nature." It means that we are also having all the qualities & representative power of God , so that we can take charge & be responsible for fish in the sea, and birds in the air, for every living things that move on the face of earth ( Gen 1:28).
God has put good spirit & bad spirit in every man ( In Islam, it is called Taqwa&Fujura). If you are under the influence of good spirit, you will do righteous deeds. But if you are under the influence of bad spirit, you will commit sin. A man is free to choose his deeds.
You quoted from Job 25:4: "How then can man be righteous before God? Or how can he be pure who is born of a woman?" I did not find anything like this in my Bible. However, it is not said by God. It is mere an experience of Job. If you take it as TRUE, then Jesus is also not a pure man because he is born of a woman.
You have quoted from Exodus. " visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children's children to the third and the fourth generation."" - (Exd 34: 7 NKJV)"" This is the punishment given by God to the people of Moses when they disobey God & did not enter the city designated by God. This punishment was valid up to 4th generations & then withdrawn. Please note that iniquity visited from fathers to children, not sin. You must know the difference between Iniquity & Sin.
As I told before, God will forgive you if you pray to him & come back from wickedness. God does not need any sacrifice for your sin. Please note this verse from Samuel. (1sam 15:22) "And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams."
I did not say that God will not send any new Covenant. I said where is that new covenant? This New Covenant is none but the Covenant of Islam which has come for whole mankind and which will remain valid till the doom's day. Jesus will come back & will follow this New Covenant of Islam.
If Adam is made in the image of God, and we are made in the image of Adam, then it becomes obvious that we also carry the image of God. But what you mean by image of God? Does it mean we look like God? Does it mean that God also have hands, feet, head & eyes like us? No, it is not like that. Genesis 1:27 says- " He created them Godlike, reflecting God's nature." It means that we are also having all the qualities & representative power of God , so that we can take charge & be responsible for fish in the sea, and birds in the air, for every living things that move on the face of earth ( Gen 1:28).
God has put good spirit & bad spirit in every man ( In Islam, it is called Taqwa&Fujura). If you are under the influence of good spirit, you will do righteous deeds. But if you are under the influence of bad spirit, you will commit sin. A man is free to choose his deeds.
You quoted from Job 25:4: "How then can man be righteous before God? Or how can he be pure who is born of a woman?" I did not find anything like this in my Bible. However, it is not said by God. It is mere an experience of Job. If you take it as TRUE, then Jesus is also not a pure man because he is born of a woman.
You have quoted from Exodus. " visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children's children to the third and the fourth generation."" - (Exd 34: 7 NKJV)"" This is the punishment given by God to the people of Moses when they disobey God & did not enter the city designated by God. This punishment was valid up to 4th generations & then withdrawn. Please note that iniquity visited from fathers to children, not sin. You must know the difference between Iniquity & Sin.
As I told before, God will forgive you if you pray to him & come back from wickedness. God does not need any sacrifice for your sin. Please note this verse from Samuel. (1sam 15:22) "And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams."
I did not say that God will not send any new Covenant. I said where is that new covenant? This New Covenant is none but the Covenant of Islam which has come for whole mankind and which will remain valid till the doom's day. Jesus will come back & will follow this New Covenant of Islam.