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[email protected] wrote:
At 12:23 PM 6/10/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Please, allow me to clarify what I meant.
Adam was made from the dust of the earth. He was made in the image of God. Eve was taken from his side.
They were told not to eat of the tree in the midst of the garden and if they did, they would die.
They did eat of it. They died, but not physically, but rather, spiritually.
By yielding themselves to Lucifer, they lost the glory of God. God is life and to lose His glory is death.
The children of Adam and Eve are born without the glory of God.
They are spiritually dead.
That's why Jesus says "you MUST be born again in order to enter the kingdom of God".
This is also why John the disciple says that you must be born of water and spirit to see the kingdom of God.
This is what I meant when I said we are born with original sin.
Jesus was born of woman, but also of the seed of God, so He was born without sin, although He was born in a physical body by way of Mary, daughter of Eve.
The Bible declares that the entire world was also subject to death because of man's sin. The Bible declares that all the world groans in waiting for the revelation of the son of God.
I know my beliefs seem foolish to you. That's because I believe the Bible is the Word of God.
You do not.
So, now back to what you said about God speaking to Moses, that it was in reference to them not going into the Promised Land. Not so. This particular appearance of God was before they turned back in unbelief. This was when God appeared to Moses and gave Him the law, so the declaration of God that He visits the sins on the 3rd and 4th generations had nothing to do with what you say.
So, tell me, what does Islam offer me? What I mean by that, what is there in the way you live that makes you more close to God than I? What does your religion offer me in order to be accepted by God that I am not already doing?
I pray. I seek God every day. I work diligently to never sin and when I do sin, I turn back to Him immediately and ask forgiveness. I read the Bible every day. I love my neighbors; I forgive my enemies (pretty much). I try to live Holy as He is Holy. I teach people about God. I don't steal or cheat people. I give to the poor. I live a humble life. I spend hours of every day writing to you and others on the internet.
I work hard every day, up to 12 hours a day! I always seek to be pleasing in the sight of God.
So, again, what am I missing? Are there certain rules that I need to keep to go to heaven that I am not keeping?
Dear Khalilur,
Please, allow me to clarify what I meant.
Adam was made from the dust of the earth. He was made in the image of God. Eve was taken from his side.
They were told not to eat of the tree in the midst of the garden and if they did, they would die.
They did eat of it. They died, but not physically, but rather, spiritually.
By yielding themselves to Lucifer, they lost the glory of God. God is life and to lose His glory is death.
The children of Adam and Eve are born without the glory of God.
They are spiritually dead.
That's why Jesus says "you MUST be born again in order to enter the kingdom of God".
This is also why John the disciple says that you must be born of water and spirit to see the kingdom of God.
This is what I meant when I said we are born with original sin.
Jesus was born of woman, but also of the seed of God, so He was born without sin, although He was born in a physical body by way of Mary, daughter of Eve.
The Bible declares that the entire world was also subject to death because of man's sin. The Bible declares that all the world groans in waiting for the revelation of the son of God.
I know my beliefs seem foolish to you. That's because I believe the Bible is the Word of God.
You do not.
So, now back to what you said about God speaking to Moses, that it was in reference to them not going into the Promised Land. Not so. This particular appearance of God was before they turned back in unbelief. This was when God appeared to Moses and gave Him the law, so the declaration of God that He visits the sins on the 3rd and 4th generations had nothing to do with what you say.
So, tell me, what does Islam offer me? What I mean by that, what is there in the way you live that makes you more close to God than I? What does your religion offer me in order to be accepted by God that I am not already doing?
I pray. I seek God every day. I work diligently to never sin and when I do sin, I turn back to Him immediately and ask forgiveness. I read the Bible every day. I love my neighbors; I forgive my enemies (pretty much). I try to live Holy as He is Holy. I teach people about God. I don't steal or cheat people. I give to the poor. I live a humble life. I spend hours of every day writing to you and others on the internet.
I work hard every day, up to 12 hours a day! I always seek to be pleasing in the sight of God.
So, again, what am I missing? Are there certain rules that I need to keep to go to heaven that I am not keeping?
KHALILUR RAHMAN
I am happy that you have given a description of your daily activities
"I pray. I seek God every day. I work diligently to never sin and when I do sin, I turn back to Him immediately and ask forgiveness. I read the Bible every day. I love my neighbors; I forgive my enemies (pretty much). I try to live Holy as He is Holy. I teach people about God. I don't steal or cheat people. I give to the poor. I live a humble life. I spend hours of every day writing to you and others on the internet. I work hard every day, up to 12 hours a day! I always seek to be pleasing in the sight of God."
This is a picture of a very pious man. But just one question. You pray to whom? If you pray to God, you are nothing but a Muslim & there is hardly any difference between us.. If you pray to Jesus, it is a blasphemy & your all righteous deeds will be washed away. Read the following verses from Bible.
Gen 34: 16-18 Do not worship any other God. God his name The-Jealous-One.
Mathew 4:10 - Worship the Lord your God, and only him. Serve him with absolute single-heartedness.
Mathew 7:7 -" Don't bargain with God. Be direct. Ask for what you need, you will be given."
So, it is clear from Bible that you have to pray to God only, not to Jesus.
Now, can you please explain about the following characters given in Revelation: 1. The Beast coming out of sea (Rev 13:1) 2. The Dragon 3. The Lamb 4. Anti-Christ 5. A man on a white horse with a bow ( Rev 6:2) 6. A man on a white horse with name Faithful & Truth (Rev 19:11)
"I pray. I seek God every day. I work diligently to never sin and when I do sin, I turn back to Him immediately and ask forgiveness. I read the Bible every day. I love my neighbors; I forgive my enemies (pretty much). I try to live Holy as He is Holy. I teach people about God. I don't steal or cheat people. I give to the poor. I live a humble life. I spend hours of every day writing to you and others on the internet. I work hard every day, up to 12 hours a day! I always seek to be pleasing in the sight of God."
This is a picture of a very pious man. But just one question. You pray to whom? If you pray to God, you are nothing but a Muslim & there is hardly any difference between us.. If you pray to Jesus, it is a blasphemy & your all righteous deeds will be washed away. Read the following verses from Bible.
Gen 34: 16-18 Do not worship any other God. God his name The-Jealous-One.
Mathew 4:10 - Worship the Lord your God, and only him. Serve him with absolute single-heartedness.
Mathew 7:7 -" Don't bargain with God. Be direct. Ask for what you need, you will be given."
So, it is clear from Bible that you have to pray to God only, not to Jesus.
Now, can you please explain about the following characters given in Revelation: 1. The Beast coming out of sea (Rev 13:1) 2. The Dragon 3. The Lamb 4. Anti-Christ 5. A man on a white horse with a bow ( Rev 6:2) 6. A man on a white horse with name Faithful & Truth (Rev 19:11)
[email protected] wrote:
At 09:49 AM 6/11/2012, you wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
I will answer your questions in the next email.
I just wanted to send you this scripture first, which refutes what you say about sin and sacrifice.
You say that no one can pay for the sins of others. I say you are wrong and that my belief is basedon what the Bible says, and it's not just something people made up.
"Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand." - (Isa 53:10 NKJV)
"He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities." - (Isa 53:11 NKJV)
This is a prophecy from Isaiah about Jesus, the suffering servant. As you can see, God definitely planned for Jesus to come to earth to die for the sins of the world.
You don't have to be a Christian to be Muslim, that is, it's not about a name or religion. It's about truly submitting to God. Submitting to God means accepting what He says as true, it means obeying what He says, it means yielding control of our lives to His rulership. He is the King. He is the Lord. He is God.
Dear Khalilur,
I will answer your questions in the next email.
I just wanted to send you this scripture first, which refutes what you say about sin and sacrifice.
You say that no one can pay for the sins of others. I say you are wrong and that my belief is basedon what the Bible says, and it's not just something people made up.
"Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand." - (Isa 53:10 NKJV)
"He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities." - (Isa 53:11 NKJV)
This is a prophecy from Isaiah about Jesus, the suffering servant. As you can see, God definitely planned for Jesus to come to earth to die for the sins of the world.
You don't have to be a Christian to be Muslim, that is, it's not about a name or religion. It's about truly submitting to God. Submitting to God means accepting what He says as true, it means obeying what He says, it means yielding control of our lives to His rulership. He is the King. He is the Lord. He is God.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
I liked what you said in this mail.
"You don't have to be a Christian to be Muslim, that is, it's not about a name or religion. It's about truly submitting to God. Submitting to God means accepting what He says as true, it means obeying what He says, it means yielding control of our lives to His ruler ship. He is the King. He is the Lord. He is God."
I agree 100% with you. But we have to find out what God exactly said. When there is confusion, when there is a contradiction, we have to filter out which is God's word & which is not. I have quoted what God said to Moses, Solomon & other prophets. But you are trying to counter it by visions seen by Isaiah. God's word & vision by somebody is not comparable. Moreover, it is not clear that they are talking about Jesus. It is not mentioned that he was killed on cross. These visions may fit to many prophets including John.
In fact Jesus did not indicate anywhere that he is going to die to pay for other's sin. Rather, he prayed to God to remove this cup of death from him. He said in Mark 14:35 - "Going a little ahead, he prostrated on the ground & said, Father, Father , you can do everything. Take this cup away from me". When he was going to become senseless on cross, he shouted-" Eloi, Eloi, lama sabakthani. which means, My God my God, why you have abandoned me ( Mark 15:34)." If Jesus knew that he is going to die to pay for the sin of mankind, he would not have complained to God like this. He would have accepted this death very sportingly. Here it is clear that he was put to cross against his will.
In fact Jesus did not die on cross. He was senseless. Weather was becoming adverse. The soldiers thought that he was dead. They did not break his leg. They handed over the body to Josef for burial & quickly returned to their houses. Josef buried him in a big & wide cave-like grave in the presence of Mary & Mary Magdalena. Mary & Mary Magdalena did understand that Jesus did not die. They treated him with ointment. Sunday morning, Mary Magdalena , along with other women, took ointment with them & went to the grave. They found the grave opened wide & Jesus had gone. They were afraid of Jews getting Jesus again. When they found Jesus in the garden, they were delighted. When Jesus met his disciples, they thought, it is the spirit of Jesus. Jesus confirmed them that he is not spirit. He is still alive. He took fish & honey to prove that he is not a spirit because a spirit does not eat & drink. And finally Jesus was taken up in the sky alive.
If you read the Gospel very analytically, you will find this fact.
"You don't have to be a Christian to be Muslim, that is, it's not about a name or religion. It's about truly submitting to God. Submitting to God means accepting what He says as true, it means obeying what He says, it means yielding control of our lives to His ruler ship. He is the King. He is the Lord. He is God."
I agree 100% with you. But we have to find out what God exactly said. When there is confusion, when there is a contradiction, we have to filter out which is God's word & which is not. I have quoted what God said to Moses, Solomon & other prophets. But you are trying to counter it by visions seen by Isaiah. God's word & vision by somebody is not comparable. Moreover, it is not clear that they are talking about Jesus. It is not mentioned that he was killed on cross. These visions may fit to many prophets including John.
In fact Jesus did not indicate anywhere that he is going to die to pay for other's sin. Rather, he prayed to God to remove this cup of death from him. He said in Mark 14:35 - "Going a little ahead, he prostrated on the ground & said, Father, Father , you can do everything. Take this cup away from me". When he was going to become senseless on cross, he shouted-" Eloi, Eloi, lama sabakthani. which means, My God my God, why you have abandoned me ( Mark 15:34)." If Jesus knew that he is going to die to pay for the sin of mankind, he would not have complained to God like this. He would have accepted this death very sportingly. Here it is clear that he was put to cross against his will.
In fact Jesus did not die on cross. He was senseless. Weather was becoming adverse. The soldiers thought that he was dead. They did not break his leg. They handed over the body to Josef for burial & quickly returned to their houses. Josef buried him in a big & wide cave-like grave in the presence of Mary & Mary Magdalena. Mary & Mary Magdalena did understand that Jesus did not die. They treated him with ointment. Sunday morning, Mary Magdalena , along with other women, took ointment with them & went to the grave. They found the grave opened wide & Jesus had gone. They were afraid of Jews getting Jesus again. When they found Jesus in the garden, they were delighted. When Jesus met his disciples, they thought, it is the spirit of Jesus. Jesus confirmed them that he is not spirit. He is still alive. He took fish & honey to prove that he is not a spirit because a spirit does not eat & drink. And finally Jesus was taken up in the sky alive.
If you read the Gospel very analytically, you will find this fact.