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KHALILUR RAHMAN
Now I have understood how the mis-interpretation of Revelation of Bible can lead the whole nations of Christianity into an unjust war in Middle East. Whatever you have sent to me is totally wrong. But unfortunately, the Christian world is taking action in Middle East based on the wrong interpretation of Revelation. They are thinking that they are creating a suitable field in Middle East where Jesus can land safely. But their concept is wrong as usual.
Let us study & discuss the Revelation with wisdom & open mind. Please note, revelation demands wisdom. Without wisdom, you cannot get a correct picture.
There are some established facts in Bible & Revelation. Firstly, We must agree to those facts .They are as below:
1. The war of Armageddon will be fought in Middle Eastern Area. There is no doubt about it. Jesus is seen on the mount of Zion with his followers. This mount is around Jerusalem, may be in Syria. Islam also says that Jesus will land on a tower of a mosque in Damascus & he will wait on a mount with his followers.
2. All Jews are anti-Christ. They were against Jesus during his life time, they will also fight Jesus at his 2nd coming. Bible says, Sons of Jacob will be mostly persecuted during this war. Two third of them will be killed in this war. The remaining one third will accept Jesus after this war. So, there is no doubt that all Jews are anti-Christ.
3. Beast & Dragon ( Serpent) are also Anti-Christ. Jesus will fight them & killed their followers. And they will be thrown in the lake of fire.
Now please tell me , do you agree to the above assumptions in the light of Bible & Revelation? We proceed further after your response.
Let us study & discuss the Revelation with wisdom & open mind. Please note, revelation demands wisdom. Without wisdom, you cannot get a correct picture.
There are some established facts in Bible & Revelation. Firstly, We must agree to those facts .They are as below:
1. The war of Armageddon will be fought in Middle Eastern Area. There is no doubt about it. Jesus is seen on the mount of Zion with his followers. This mount is around Jerusalem, may be in Syria. Islam also says that Jesus will land on a tower of a mosque in Damascus & he will wait on a mount with his followers.
2. All Jews are anti-Christ. They were against Jesus during his life time, they will also fight Jesus at his 2nd coming. Bible says, Sons of Jacob will be mostly persecuted during this war. Two third of them will be killed in this war. The remaining one third will accept Jesus after this war. So, there is no doubt that all Jews are anti-Christ.
3. Beast & Dragon ( Serpent) are also Anti-Christ. Jesus will fight them & killed their followers. And they will be thrown in the lake of fire.
Now please tell me , do you agree to the above assumptions in the light of Bible & Revelation? We proceed further after your response.
[email protected] wrote:
At 08:59 AM 6/13/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Jesus did indeed say He was going to die for our sins!
Here it is written in Matthew: "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is My body."" - (Mat 26:26 NKJV)
"Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you." - (Mat 26:27 NKJV)
""For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." - (Mat 26:28 NKJV)
So, I ask you. Why do you not believe that God sent His Son to die to pay for your sins, when He said exactly that, right here?
The rest of what you say about His crucifixion is simply not true. I do, as you say, read the bible analytically and it CLEARLY shows Christ and Him crucified.
Dear Khalilur,
Jesus did indeed say He was going to die for our sins!
Here it is written in Matthew: "And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, "Take, eat; this is My body."" - (Mat 26:26 NKJV)
"Then He took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, "Drink from it, all of you." - (Mat 26:27 NKJV)
""For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins." - (Mat 26:28 NKJV)
So, I ask you. Why do you not believe that God sent His Son to die to pay for your sins, when He said exactly that, right here?
The rest of what you say about His crucifixion is simply not true. I do, as you say, read the bible analytically and it CLEARLY shows Christ and Him crucified.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
These are all symbolic expressions which you people always do misinterpret. Now tell me, do you really eat flesh & blood of Jesus? It is not practically possible. It means you take Jesus in your life whole-heartedly. That will remit your sin.. Jesus said-" if you love me, follow my all orders ( John 14:15)..
As I told you in my last mail, Jesus DID NOT DIE ON CROSS. He was senseless, but the soldiers thought he was dead. He was given treatment in his grave. When he appeared before his disciples, he never said that I was dead & now I am alive. Rather he was trying to prove that he is still with this earthly body & yet to go to God above.
Previously, Jesus used to tell his disciples-" Let me go, let me go to my Father, If I do not go I cannot send the Comforter for you." He never said-" Let me die, let me die..... ...".
When people was asking signs from him, he said in Mathew 12:39-40 “Jesus Said Unfaithful & wicked people ask for sign. I will not give them any sign, except the sign of Jonah. Jonah was in the belly of fish for 3 nights & 3 days. So, the son of man will remain in the belly of earth for 3 days & 3 nights”. Jesus said he will remain in the belly of earth like Jonah was in the belly of fish. Please note here, Jonah was alive in the belly of fish. So, Jesus, the son of man was also remained alive in the belly of earth to fulfill his sign.
As I told you in my last mail, Jesus DID NOT DIE ON CROSS. He was senseless, but the soldiers thought he was dead. He was given treatment in his grave. When he appeared before his disciples, he never said that I was dead & now I am alive. Rather he was trying to prove that he is still with this earthly body & yet to go to God above.
Previously, Jesus used to tell his disciples-" Let me go, let me go to my Father, If I do not go I cannot send the Comforter for you." He never said-" Let me die, let me die..... ...".
When people was asking signs from him, he said in Mathew 12:39-40 “Jesus Said Unfaithful & wicked people ask for sign. I will not give them any sign, except the sign of Jonah. Jonah was in the belly of fish for 3 nights & 3 days. So, the son of man will remain in the belly of earth for 3 days & 3 nights”. Jesus said he will remain in the belly of earth like Jonah was in the belly of fish. Please note here, Jonah was alive in the belly of fish. So, Jesus, the son of man was also remained alive in the belly of earth to fulfill his sign.
[email protected] wrote:
At 10:46 AM 6/14/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
You make the assumption that the United States leaders are preparing the way for Jesus to land. The reason that's nonsense is that most of them do not even believe the Bible is the Word of God and IF they did, Jesus NEVER said to do that.
In fact, He said the OPPOSITE!
He said 'if my kingdom was of this world, My disciples would fight'. Jesus Kingdom in Heaven and His disciples' calling is to lay down their lives that others might be saved, just as He did (not literally, necessarily, but definitely figuratively .....and sometimes physically).
Yes, Jesus will land on the Mt. of Olives, it will split in 2. He will throw the Beast and the Prophet into the Lake of Fire. The specifics are not that important, as it's not like anyone is going to not know what's happening when it does. I just pray you come to Him now, in the day of Salvation.
Your focus on Jews being Anti-Christ tells me that you do not love Jews. I love Jews. I love Muslims. If I didn't love anti-Christ people, I would not be Godly. God loves anti-Christ people. He came to save them!
I don't think there's much reason to continue this back and forth discussion since you clearly reject anything I show you in the Bible, but if you want, we can continue.
I will send this reply and my reply to 'fear of God' thread that we have going. I have already written that one, but I wanted to be able to read this email to see what it said before I sent the other.
Dear Khalilur,
You make the assumption that the United States leaders are preparing the way for Jesus to land. The reason that's nonsense is that most of them do not even believe the Bible is the Word of God and IF they did, Jesus NEVER said to do that.
In fact, He said the OPPOSITE!
He said 'if my kingdom was of this world, My disciples would fight'. Jesus Kingdom in Heaven and His disciples' calling is to lay down their lives that others might be saved, just as He did (not literally, necessarily, but definitely figuratively .....and sometimes physically).
Yes, Jesus will land on the Mt. of Olives, it will split in 2. He will throw the Beast and the Prophet into the Lake of Fire. The specifics are not that important, as it's not like anyone is going to not know what's happening when it does. I just pray you come to Him now, in the day of Salvation.
Your focus on Jews being Anti-Christ tells me that you do not love Jews. I love Jews. I love Muslims. If I didn't love anti-Christ people, I would not be Godly. God loves anti-Christ people. He came to save them!
I don't think there's much reason to continue this back and forth discussion since you clearly reject anything I show you in the Bible, but if you want, we can continue.
I will send this reply and my reply to 'fear of God' thread that we have going. I have already written that one, but I wanted to be able to read this email to see what it said before I sent the other.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
Whether you love Muslims or Jews, it does not change the status of Muslim or Jews. You already know Muslim's status regarding Jesus. You also know that Jews does not believe anything regarding Jesus. They also do not believe in his miraculous birth. Bible says they will fight Jesus , but two third of them will perish in the war of Armageddon. Remaining one third of them will accept Jesus after this war. Keeping these in view, I asked you specifically whether you believe that the Jews are anti-Christ. Unless we clarify this question, we will not understand many predictions in Revelation. Please be honest & reply.
[email protected] wrote:
At 10:49 AM 6/14/2012, you wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
In reading your reply, it is obvious that you have chosen not to admit what is right in front of you, plainly shown in the Bible.
You hop, skip and dance around clearly delineated passages in order to make them fit the narrative given you by your teachers.
I understand your quandary. If you acknowledge that the Bible clearly shows that Jesus died for our sins and rose again on the 3rd day, you would have to reexamine your faith in the teachings of Mohammed and the Qur’an, which you cannot do, for to do so is to abandon your faith and face certain hell fire (per your religions teachings.)
I can only tell you this. God loves you , not because you are a good and pious man, but because it is His nature to do so.
God is good and beautiful. His mercy is new every morning and His grace is sufficient to meet your every need.
Please be reconciled to Him. Jesus died to make that way for you. He takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked. But He cannot save those who reject Him, for to do so would violate His nature as well. For He made you in His image and granted you with a mind and a will to choose or reject Him.
I have done my best to show you Jesus, I only wish I was better at it and that I could have seen you accept the free Gift of eternal life.
Dear Khalilur,
In reading your reply, it is obvious that you have chosen not to admit what is right in front of you, plainly shown in the Bible.
You hop, skip and dance around clearly delineated passages in order to make them fit the narrative given you by your teachers.
I understand your quandary. If you acknowledge that the Bible clearly shows that Jesus died for our sins and rose again on the 3rd day, you would have to reexamine your faith in the teachings of Mohammed and the Qur’an, which you cannot do, for to do so is to abandon your faith and face certain hell fire (per your religions teachings.)
I can only tell you this. God loves you , not because you are a good and pious man, but because it is His nature to do so.
God is good and beautiful. His mercy is new every morning and His grace is sufficient to meet your every need.
Please be reconciled to Him. Jesus died to make that way for you. He takes no pleasure in the destruction of the wicked. But He cannot save those who reject Him, for to do so would violate His nature as well. For He made you in His image and granted you with a mind and a will to choose or reject Him.
I have done my best to show you Jesus, I only wish I was better at it and that I could have seen you accept the free Gift of eternal life.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
I have quoted from your Gospel & tried to show that Jesus did not die on cross. Certainly Qur'an also say so & nowhere it is mentioned in Old Testament or Jesus said himself that he will die on cross. Whatever I quoted from your Bible also support my statement. If you do not agree to my explanation or if you have any other explanations, please say so. But you have not touched at all about my quotes.
If you want we can close this chapter & continue our discussions on Revelation only. But I want to ask you a private question. Do you see God or talk to God? If yes, how it happens, because I do not have any experience like that.
If you want we can close this chapter & continue our discussions on Revelation only. But I want to ask you a private question. Do you see God or talk to God? If yes, how it happens, because I do not have any experience like that.