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At 06:06 AM 6/17/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
You say that Islam is the rider on the White Horse in Revelation 6: 1-2.
It says here that he went out 'conquering and to conquer'.
How is Islam conquering and who are they conquering?
Dear Khalilur,
You say that Islam is the rider on the White Horse in Revelation 6: 1-2.
It says here that he went out 'conquering and to conquer'.
How is Islam conquering and who are they conquering?
KHALILUR RAHMAN
Don't you see that Islam is originated from Makkah& spread from Morocco in West to Indonesia in East. I did not find any other incidents which may fit in this slot of Revelation. Do you have any other idea?
Now let us move to the 7th chapter of Revelation. This chapter tells us who are the people will enter the heaven. All the servants of God has been sealed who will enter heaven. It shows that only 144,000 people, 12000 from each tribe of Israel, will enter heaven. Naturally, the remaining will go to hell.
Revelation 7:4 Then I counted the number of sealed Servants of God who will go to heaven. Only 144,000 were sealed from the tribe of Israel.
Now, when we proceed further & read Rev 7:9 & onward, we find that thousands of people dressed with white robe & date tree branches in their hands, waiting in front of God to enter heaven.
Revelation 7:9-17 Thousands of people from all nations & tribes, races & languages, dressed in white robes & waving palm ( date tree ) branches, assembled. They are countless in number. They all will enter heaven.
Now who are these people? Apply your wisdom. White robe & date tree branch, both are the symbols of Islam. You go anywhere in this world, you will find Muslims are putting white robes during all religious activities every day. And Date Tree is the national symbols of all nations in Middle East. So, there is no doubt that these countless waiting people are Muslims.
Dear Donald
I want to have some clarification on chapter 4 of Revelation. The whole chapter is dealing with the Throne of God & then 24 thrones encircled the throne of God.
Revelation 4:2-5 I saw a Throne set in Heaven with One seated on the Throne, suffused in gem hues of amber & flame with a nimbus of emerald. Twenty four thrones circled the Throne, with 24 Elders seated, white robed, gold crowned.
It is very much understood that the Central Throne belongs to God & God is sitting on it. But who are those 24 Elders with white robe & crowned sitting on thrones around God? And who are those 4 Animals around God, having eyes all around & always chanting praise to God.
Revelation 4:7 Prowling around the Throne were four Animals, all eyes. Eyes to look ahead, eyes to look behind.The first Animal like a lion, the second like an ox, the third with a human face, the fourth like an eagle in flight.
I think, the 24 Elders are 24 great Messengers of God whose names are mentioned in Qur'an. Four Animals may be the four great scriptures mentioned in Qur'an & sent by God. They are , Torah, Jabur, Injil& Qur'an.. If you have any other explanation, please let me know.
Now let us move to the 7th chapter of Revelation. This chapter tells us who are the people will enter the heaven. All the servants of God has been sealed who will enter heaven. It shows that only 144,000 people, 12000 from each tribe of Israel, will enter heaven. Naturally, the remaining will go to hell.
Revelation 7:4 Then I counted the number of sealed Servants of God who will go to heaven. Only 144,000 were sealed from the tribe of Israel.
Now, when we proceed further & read Rev 7:9 & onward, we find that thousands of people dressed with white robe & date tree branches in their hands, waiting in front of God to enter heaven.
Revelation 7:9-17 Thousands of people from all nations & tribes, races & languages, dressed in white robes & waving palm ( date tree ) branches, assembled. They are countless in number. They all will enter heaven.
Now who are these people? Apply your wisdom. White robe & date tree branch, both are the symbols of Islam. You go anywhere in this world, you will find Muslims are putting white robes during all religious activities every day. And Date Tree is the national symbols of all nations in Middle East. So, there is no doubt that these countless waiting people are Muslims.
Dear Donald
I want to have some clarification on chapter 4 of Revelation. The whole chapter is dealing with the Throne of God & then 24 thrones encircled the throne of God.
Revelation 4:2-5 I saw a Throne set in Heaven with One seated on the Throne, suffused in gem hues of amber & flame with a nimbus of emerald. Twenty four thrones circled the Throne, with 24 Elders seated, white robed, gold crowned.
It is very much understood that the Central Throne belongs to God & God is sitting on it. But who are those 24 Elders with white robe & crowned sitting on thrones around God? And who are those 4 Animals around God, having eyes all around & always chanting praise to God.
Revelation 4:7 Prowling around the Throne were four Animals, all eyes. Eyes to look ahead, eyes to look behind.The first Animal like a lion, the second like an ox, the third with a human face, the fourth like an eagle in flight.
I think, the 24 Elders are 24 great Messengers of God whose names are mentioned in Qur'an. Four Animals may be the four great scriptures mentioned in Qur'an & sent by God. They are , Torah, Jabur, Injil& Qur'an.. If you have any other explanation, please let me know.
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At 09:27 AM 6/20/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Jesus explained at least 12 of those who sit on the thrones
Mat 19:28 So Jesus said to them, "Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Four living creatures are similar to what we see in Ezekiel 1and10, speaking of Cherubim. It is possible they are revealing to us how glorious God is, for they have eyes all around, as to say they see all things and what is their reaction to seeing so much of Gods creation? They continually worship God night and day! For He is worthy.
Face of a man , calf, lion and eagle: Exekiel 1:6 ( look it up ) these are Angels. Why these four faces? I'm not sure, it's up to interpretation. Perhaps speaking of tribes of Israel. But we really don't know. They could represent Jesus as depicted in the 4 gospels.
Dear Khalilur,
Jesus explained at least 12 of those who sit on the thrones
Mat 19:28 So Jesus said to them, "Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Four living creatures are similar to what we see in Ezekiel 1and10, speaking of Cherubim. It is possible they are revealing to us how glorious God is, for they have eyes all around, as to say they see all things and what is their reaction to seeing so much of Gods creation? They continually worship God night and day! For He is worthy.
Face of a man , calf, lion and eagle: Exekiel 1:6 ( look it up ) these are Angels. Why these four faces? I'm not sure, it's up to interpretation. Perhaps speaking of tribes of Israel. But we really don't know. They could represent Jesus as depicted in the 4 gospels.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
I understand, you do not have any explanation of Revelation 4 which suits your Paulian concept. It is certainly not Jesus & his 12 disciples. Jesus will sit with his 12 disciples to judge the 12 tribes of Israel as shown in Mathew 19:28 . Note that Jesus judges only the people of Israel. He does not have any authority to judge other nations of the world.
There is another explanation also for Revelation 4. The central Throne is the Throne of the Prophet of Islam, because he is the leader of all the Prophets of God. Other 24 thrones around him is occupied by 24 great Prophets of God whose names are mentioned in Qur'an. Please note that the names of other Prophets are not mentioned in Qur'an although their numbers are much more than hundreds of thousands.
In your other mail you asked, who is teaching me, is it spirit of God? Certainly, I have Spirit of God in me & my living Guides are Qur'an & Hadith.
Now let us move to the chapter 12 of Revelation. This letter will be slight longer, because I want to present the whole of Revelation in one go. I hope you will read it in total.
Revelation 12:1-2 A great sign appeared in heaven. A woman dressed in sunshine, standing on moon & crowned with 12 stars was giving birth to a child.
Rev 12:5-6 The Woman gave birth to a Son who will rule all nations with iron hand. The son was placed safely before God. The Woman escaped to the desert.
A child is born in Middle East area who will rule all nations in iron hand. The boy is kept under safe custody of God so that nobody can kill him or harm him. We will see that this boy will appear in right time to fight the Dragon & Beasts. But the mother of this child which means the country he belongs to was in real danger. She was trying to escape the onslaught of the Dragon. Please see the next verses.
Rev 12:3-4 Then another sign, a huge & fiery Dragon. It had seven heads & ten horns. Heads are crowned.
Rev 12:9-10 The great Dragon , the ancient serpent , the one called Devil & Satan, the one who lead whole earth to astray, was thrown out to earth along with his angels.
Rev 12:13-17 The Dragon tried to catch that woman, but could not. The Dragon raged at the woman, then went to make war with the rest of her children who keep Gods command & give witness about Jesus. & then the Dragon waited on the shore of sea.
We must use our wisdom to understand these predictions of Revelation. The Dragon tried to catch the woman, but could not pinpoint her. So, it raged war against all people of this area. These people are righteous people who keep God's command & they give witness about Jesus also. Certainly these people are the Muslim population of Middle East. The Dragon is attacking them, destroying them & waiting on the sea shore to conduct next attack. The weapon used in these wars is having tremendous fire power. It is clear that the origin of this Dragon is not Middle East. It is coming across the sea & waiting on sea shore. Now use your wisdom to find out which is this country who is coming from across the sea , waging wars on the righteous people of Middle East & destroying the Middle Eastern countries one by one. Her identity will be clearly specified if you read the predictions of the French Priest Nostradamus of 15th century & see the movie " The Man Who Saw Tomorrow" made on his predictions. In that movie, it is clearly shown that the Dragon is USA. However, the prediction will be more clear if we can find out who is the Beast
Rev 13:1-2 I saw a Beast rising from the sea. It had ten horns & seven heads. Each horns is crowned, each head inscribed with blasphemous name.
Rev 13:3 The Dragon turned over its power, throne & great authority to this Beast.
Rev 13:4 The whole earth was astonished & followed the Beast. They worshipped the Dragon & worshipped the Beast.
Rev 13:7 The Beast was permitted to raise war on Gods holy people & conquer them. It held absolute authority over all tribes, countries, tongues & races.
Rev 17:10 These seven heads are seven kings also.
Rev 17:12 The ten horns you saw are ten kings as well.
If we analyze the above verses with wisdom, the identity of the Beast will also be clear. The Beast is also coming out of sea. So, it is originated from across the ocean like Dragon. Beast can use the power & authority of Dragon, it means the Beast & Dragon are helping each other. This Beast has got authority over all the countries of the world & it is using the huge power of Dragon. This Beast is authorized to raise war against any country of the World especially against Holy people of God & conquer them. Seven heads & 10 horns means seven big countries & another ten big countries are helping this Beast. Who is this Beast? It is clear that Beast is an World Organization like United Nations who is having authority over all the countries of the world. This Organization can wage war against any country of the world & USA is helping this organization with its fire power & authority. Sometimes USA is raising war in the name of this Organization. Now regarding 7 heads & 10 horns, it is 7 permanent members of Security Council & 10 temporary members of Security Council of UNO. Present UNO has only 5 permanent members. It means the present UNO still does not fulfill the Biblical prediction. But very soon they are going to have 2 more permanent members. As soon as it becomes 7 permanent members, the Biblical Prediction is going to be fulfilled. Please note that the Dragon & Beast will not be killed in the war of Armageddon. They will be captured & kept inoperative for next 1000 years. It means these two Institutions will remain there, only its beast & dragon like bad qualities will be removed. May be, Jesus will become the President of that new UNO& will have authority over all the countries of the world. Thus Jesus will become the King of the kings.
Rev 20:1-2 The Dragon & the Beast is kept captive for 1000 years so that they cannot misguide the people for 1000 years to come. After that they will be released again.
Now we will examine the identity of another beast which is coming out from the ground & having a number 666.
Rev 13:11-18 Second Beast coming out of the ground with two horns like a lamb., using the power of first beast, doing miracles, leading people to the wrong path & his number is 666.
Second Beast is originated from the ground of Middle East. It has two horns which means two big countries are helping this beast. It also use the power of first beast & leading people to the wrong path. It looks like a lamb. This is the catching point. Only the people of Israel are called lamb throughout the Bible. So, it is very clear that the second beast is the country of Israel. It is getting helps from two big countries of the world. It is using the power of USA & UNO to materialize its plan in Middle East. Regarding number 666, if we take the Hebrew/Aramaic spelling of Tribe Israel & use Aramaic Numerology, it will come out as 666. The most important point is that the Jews are always Anti-Christ during the life time of Jesus till today. So, anybody, any nations or any countries that joins Israel in the war of Armageddon will fall in the category of Anti-Christ & they will be defeated. Bible says, two third population of Israel will be killed in this war & remaining one third will accept Jesus after this war.
At this stage, God will send that Son who was born in the Middle East & kept under the protection of God. Dragon, two beasts & other kings will assemble to fight this man. Nobody knew the actual name of this man. In Islam, he is called Imam Mahdi which is a Title given to him.
Rev 19:11-14 Then I saw Heaven wide open & a white horse with his rider. The Rider, named Faithful & True, judges & makes war in pure righteousness.-- -He is followed by soldiers of heaven.
Rev 19:19 I saw the Beast & other kings assembled to fight this man on horse. First & second Beasts were caught & thrown to the lake of fire & all of their followers were killed.
At this stage Jesus also landed to earth & waiting in the mount of Zion with his 144,000 followers/soldiers.
Rev 14:1 Then I saw the Lamb standing on mount Zion with his 144,000 followers.
Rev 16:14 The Dragon, the Beast & the Second Beast collected all the kings of the world to fight on that great day of God.
Rev 16:21 From sky, huge stones weighing tons was dropping on man. They were dangerous.
The final war of Armageddon was a devastating war using all types of modern weaponry including nuclear, biological & chemical weapons. Both Bible & Hadith gives a detail descriptions how the Anti-Christ & his partners will be defeated. After the war, Jesus will take over the power of this world. Remaining Jews will accept Jesus. The misguided Christian people will come back to truth & follow Islam with Jesus. The first major incidents during this time will be the occasion when Jesus will get married. Those who will be invited in this marriage will be the lucky persons.
Rev 19:8-9 The marriage of Lamb has come. His wife has made herself ready. She was given a bridal gown of bright & shining linen. The linen is the righteousness. The Angel said to me-Write this, blessed are those invited to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb".
Islam says, Jesus will rule the nations for 40 years. He will have some children also. After that he will die a natural death. His righteous Caliph will take over the power & rule the kingdom of God. This type of righteous rule will continue for 1000 years. After that, the Beast & Dragon will reappear again & peace of this world will gradually disappear as well.
There is another explanation also for Revelation 4. The central Throne is the Throne of the Prophet of Islam, because he is the leader of all the Prophets of God. Other 24 thrones around him is occupied by 24 great Prophets of God whose names are mentioned in Qur'an. Please note that the names of other Prophets are not mentioned in Qur'an although their numbers are much more than hundreds of thousands.
In your other mail you asked, who is teaching me, is it spirit of God? Certainly, I have Spirit of God in me & my living Guides are Qur'an & Hadith.
Now let us move to the chapter 12 of Revelation. This letter will be slight longer, because I want to present the whole of Revelation in one go. I hope you will read it in total.
Revelation 12:1-2 A great sign appeared in heaven. A woman dressed in sunshine, standing on moon & crowned with 12 stars was giving birth to a child.
Rev 12:5-6 The Woman gave birth to a Son who will rule all nations with iron hand. The son was placed safely before God. The Woman escaped to the desert.
A child is born in Middle East area who will rule all nations in iron hand. The boy is kept under safe custody of God so that nobody can kill him or harm him. We will see that this boy will appear in right time to fight the Dragon & Beasts. But the mother of this child which means the country he belongs to was in real danger. She was trying to escape the onslaught of the Dragon. Please see the next verses.
Rev 12:3-4 Then another sign, a huge & fiery Dragon. It had seven heads & ten horns. Heads are crowned.
Rev 12:9-10 The great Dragon , the ancient serpent , the one called Devil & Satan, the one who lead whole earth to astray, was thrown out to earth along with his angels.
Rev 12:13-17 The Dragon tried to catch that woman, but could not. The Dragon raged at the woman, then went to make war with the rest of her children who keep Gods command & give witness about Jesus. & then the Dragon waited on the shore of sea.
We must use our wisdom to understand these predictions of Revelation. The Dragon tried to catch the woman, but could not pinpoint her. So, it raged war against all people of this area. These people are righteous people who keep God's command & they give witness about Jesus also. Certainly these people are the Muslim population of Middle East. The Dragon is attacking them, destroying them & waiting on the sea shore to conduct next attack. The weapon used in these wars is having tremendous fire power. It is clear that the origin of this Dragon is not Middle East. It is coming across the sea & waiting on sea shore. Now use your wisdom to find out which is this country who is coming from across the sea , waging wars on the righteous people of Middle East & destroying the Middle Eastern countries one by one. Her identity will be clearly specified if you read the predictions of the French Priest Nostradamus of 15th century & see the movie " The Man Who Saw Tomorrow" made on his predictions. In that movie, it is clearly shown that the Dragon is USA. However, the prediction will be more clear if we can find out who is the Beast
Rev 13:1-2 I saw a Beast rising from the sea. It had ten horns & seven heads. Each horns is crowned, each head inscribed with blasphemous name.
Rev 13:3 The Dragon turned over its power, throne & great authority to this Beast.
Rev 13:4 The whole earth was astonished & followed the Beast. They worshipped the Dragon & worshipped the Beast.
Rev 13:7 The Beast was permitted to raise war on Gods holy people & conquer them. It held absolute authority over all tribes, countries, tongues & races.
Rev 17:10 These seven heads are seven kings also.
Rev 17:12 The ten horns you saw are ten kings as well.
If we analyze the above verses with wisdom, the identity of the Beast will also be clear. The Beast is also coming out of sea. So, it is originated from across the ocean like Dragon. Beast can use the power & authority of Dragon, it means the Beast & Dragon are helping each other. This Beast has got authority over all the countries of the world & it is using the huge power of Dragon. This Beast is authorized to raise war against any country of the World especially against Holy people of God & conquer them. Seven heads & 10 horns means seven big countries & another ten big countries are helping this Beast. Who is this Beast? It is clear that Beast is an World Organization like United Nations who is having authority over all the countries of the world. This Organization can wage war against any country of the world & USA is helping this organization with its fire power & authority. Sometimes USA is raising war in the name of this Organization. Now regarding 7 heads & 10 horns, it is 7 permanent members of Security Council & 10 temporary members of Security Council of UNO. Present UNO has only 5 permanent members. It means the present UNO still does not fulfill the Biblical prediction. But very soon they are going to have 2 more permanent members. As soon as it becomes 7 permanent members, the Biblical Prediction is going to be fulfilled. Please note that the Dragon & Beast will not be killed in the war of Armageddon. They will be captured & kept inoperative for next 1000 years. It means these two Institutions will remain there, only its beast & dragon like bad qualities will be removed. May be, Jesus will become the President of that new UNO& will have authority over all the countries of the world. Thus Jesus will become the King of the kings.
Rev 20:1-2 The Dragon & the Beast is kept captive for 1000 years so that they cannot misguide the people for 1000 years to come. After that they will be released again.
Now we will examine the identity of another beast which is coming out from the ground & having a number 666.
Rev 13:11-18 Second Beast coming out of the ground with two horns like a lamb., using the power of first beast, doing miracles, leading people to the wrong path & his number is 666.
Second Beast is originated from the ground of Middle East. It has two horns which means two big countries are helping this beast. It also use the power of first beast & leading people to the wrong path. It looks like a lamb. This is the catching point. Only the people of Israel are called lamb throughout the Bible. So, it is very clear that the second beast is the country of Israel. It is getting helps from two big countries of the world. It is using the power of USA & UNO to materialize its plan in Middle East. Regarding number 666, if we take the Hebrew/Aramaic spelling of Tribe Israel & use Aramaic Numerology, it will come out as 666. The most important point is that the Jews are always Anti-Christ during the life time of Jesus till today. So, anybody, any nations or any countries that joins Israel in the war of Armageddon will fall in the category of Anti-Christ & they will be defeated. Bible says, two third population of Israel will be killed in this war & remaining one third will accept Jesus after this war.
At this stage, God will send that Son who was born in the Middle East & kept under the protection of God. Dragon, two beasts & other kings will assemble to fight this man. Nobody knew the actual name of this man. In Islam, he is called Imam Mahdi which is a Title given to him.
Rev 19:11-14 Then I saw Heaven wide open & a white horse with his rider. The Rider, named Faithful & True, judges & makes war in pure righteousness.-- -He is followed by soldiers of heaven.
Rev 19:19 I saw the Beast & other kings assembled to fight this man on horse. First & second Beasts were caught & thrown to the lake of fire & all of their followers were killed.
At this stage Jesus also landed to earth & waiting in the mount of Zion with his 144,000 followers/soldiers.
Rev 14:1 Then I saw the Lamb standing on mount Zion with his 144,000 followers.
Rev 16:14 The Dragon, the Beast & the Second Beast collected all the kings of the world to fight on that great day of God.
Rev 16:21 From sky, huge stones weighing tons was dropping on man. They were dangerous.
The final war of Armageddon was a devastating war using all types of modern weaponry including nuclear, biological & chemical weapons. Both Bible & Hadith gives a detail descriptions how the Anti-Christ & his partners will be defeated. After the war, Jesus will take over the power of this world. Remaining Jews will accept Jesus. The misguided Christian people will come back to truth & follow Islam with Jesus. The first major incidents during this time will be the occasion when Jesus will get married. Those who will be invited in this marriage will be the lucky persons.
Rev 19:8-9 The marriage of Lamb has come. His wife has made herself ready. She was given a bridal gown of bright & shining linen. The linen is the righteousness. The Angel said to me-Write this, blessed are those invited to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb".
Islam says, Jesus will rule the nations for 40 years. He will have some children also. After that he will die a natural death. His righteous Caliph will take over the power & rule the kingdom of God. This type of righteous rule will continue for 1000 years. After that, the Beast & Dragon will reappear again & peace of this world will gradually disappear as well.