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[email protected] wrote:
At 10:22 AM 6/20/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
All of your claims about who Jesus is are simply incorrect and based on false teaching. Sorry to be so blunt. Once you know the truth the opposite is easy to spot.
You claim that Islam is the true way of God and that Jesus is not the Son of God and that He did not die to take away the sins of the world, that Jesus did not die on the cross but swooned, you claim that the Bible was corrupted over the years and that you have the new, restored scriptures in the Quar'an and the Hadiths. You believe yours is the only true religion before God.
You are not alone in these claims......
Jehovah's witnesses claim that they are following God in truth, that the bible was corrupted but their teachers have now rightly interpreted it and that Jesus did not rise from the dead physically, but spiritually only and that Jesus was not God in the flesh, but rather He was Michael the arch angel. they believe that theirs is the only true church.
Mormons claim that God appeared to Joseph Smith and told him that all churches were an abomination and had gone astray and that you cannot understand the bible without the book of Mormon, and their other book the doctrine and covenants. They do not believe that Jesus is God in the flesh and in fact they believe that Jesus and Lucifer were spirit brothers, but Lucifer got made and caused a rebellion in heaven when Jesus said He would come to earth and teach people about the Father, rather than to force them to submit to God. They believe that theirs is the only true church.
I claim that Jesus is exactly who the Bible claims Him to be and that the Injil as you call it, was not corrupted, but is in fact the inerrant Word of God ( And just as Jesus said, heaven and earth shall pass away but not His word will never fail'.)
Dear Khalilur,
All of your claims about who Jesus is are simply incorrect and based on false teaching. Sorry to be so blunt. Once you know the truth the opposite is easy to spot.
You claim that Islam is the true way of God and that Jesus is not the Son of God and that He did not die to take away the sins of the world, that Jesus did not die on the cross but swooned, you claim that the Bible was corrupted over the years and that you have the new, restored scriptures in the Quar'an and the Hadiths. You believe yours is the only true religion before God.
You are not alone in these claims......
Jehovah's witnesses claim that they are following God in truth, that the bible was corrupted but their teachers have now rightly interpreted it and that Jesus did not rise from the dead physically, but spiritually only and that Jesus was not God in the flesh, but rather He was Michael the arch angel. they believe that theirs is the only true church.
Mormons claim that God appeared to Joseph Smith and told him that all churches were an abomination and had gone astray and that you cannot understand the bible without the book of Mormon, and their other book the doctrine and covenants. They do not believe that Jesus is God in the flesh and in fact they believe that Jesus and Lucifer were spirit brothers, but Lucifer got made and caused a rebellion in heaven when Jesus said He would come to earth and teach people about the Father, rather than to force them to submit to God. They believe that theirs is the only true church.
I claim that Jesus is exactly who the Bible claims Him to be and that the Injil as you call it, was not corrupted, but is in fact the inerrant Word of God ( And just as Jesus said, heaven and earth shall pass away but not His word will never fail'.)
KHALILUR RAHMAN
Now everybody is claiming that he is correct. How you will find out who is correct? Qur'an says-" Bring your proof to support your claim ( HatuBorhanakum )". You have to examine what is the basis of his claim, you have to examine his scripture. To defy my claim, you have to study my scripture & tell me the reason of your disbelief. But I have made it very easy for you. I never quoted from Qur'an. All quotations I have given from your Bible & proved that:
1. Son does not carry the sin of father
2. Nobody can pay for other's sin, you have to pay for your sin
3. Jesus is not a begotten son of God, he does not carry the seed of God. He is called son of God as all other believers are also called son of God.
4. Jesus is sent only for the tribe of Israel.
5. Jesus did not come to destroy the Law and commandments of Moses, but to strengthen them.
6. He will send a Comforter/ Helper/ Counselor/ Advocate to his man to teach everything which he could not say.
7. This Comforter is not Holy Spirit; it is another Prophet for whom the Jews are still waiting.
8. Jesus did not die on cross. He was senseless & given treatment in his grave.
9. The present Christians are not following Jesus, but they follow the concept of Paul.
9A. Paul was not a disciple of Jesus. Two disciples of Jesus were supporting him at the beginning, but they abandoned him. Paul sailed alone.
10. 144,000 Jews from 12 tribes will go to heaven & thousands of uncountable Muslims are going to heaven. There is no proof that any Christian is going to heaven.
11. Predictions show that USA is Dragon, UNO is the Beast & Israel is the second beast with number 666.
12. The boy who was born in Middle East will appear & fight the Dragon & two Beasts.
13. Jesus will come down & join this boy to fight the Dragon & Beasts.
14. The Dragon & Beast will be captured & kept captive for 1000 years. After that they will re-appear again.
15. Jesus will rule the nations.
16. Jesus will marry & have children & die a natural death after 40 years.
17. Final Judgment will be done by God alone. Nobody shares this authority. Everybody will be judged for his deeds only.
1. Son does not carry the sin of father
2. Nobody can pay for other's sin, you have to pay for your sin
3. Jesus is not a begotten son of God, he does not carry the seed of God. He is called son of God as all other believers are also called son of God.
4. Jesus is sent only for the tribe of Israel.
5. Jesus did not come to destroy the Law and commandments of Moses, but to strengthen them.
6. He will send a Comforter/ Helper/ Counselor/ Advocate to his man to teach everything which he could not say.
7. This Comforter is not Holy Spirit; it is another Prophet for whom the Jews are still waiting.
8. Jesus did not die on cross. He was senseless & given treatment in his grave.
9. The present Christians are not following Jesus, but they follow the concept of Paul.
9A. Paul was not a disciple of Jesus. Two disciples of Jesus were supporting him at the beginning, but they abandoned him. Paul sailed alone.
10. 144,000 Jews from 12 tribes will go to heaven & thousands of uncountable Muslims are going to heaven. There is no proof that any Christian is going to heaven.
11. Predictions show that USA is Dragon, UNO is the Beast & Israel is the second beast with number 666.
12. The boy who was born in Middle East will appear & fight the Dragon & two Beasts.
13. Jesus will come down & join this boy to fight the Dragon & Beasts.
14. The Dragon & Beast will be captured & kept captive for 1000 years. After that they will re-appear again.
15. Jesus will rule the nations.
16. Jesus will marry & have children & die a natural death after 40 years.
17. Final Judgment will be done by God alone. Nobody shares this authority. Everybody will be judged for his deeds only.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
The discussion on Revelation cannot be completed if we do not say something about last judgment. Verses from Rev 20:11-15 deals the whole process of final Judgment. Please read the following verses.
Rev:20:11-12 I saw a Great White Throne & One sitting on that. All assembled in front of that Throne------Judgment was made as per deeds of the person.
Rev 20:14 everybody was judged as per his deeds.
If we read the whole chapter on Judgment, we find that God almighty was sitting on a big White Throne. All people assembled in front of him for taking judgment. Some books were opened & judgment is delivered as per their deeds written in their books. Everybody was judged as per his deeds. There was no exceptions. Please note that the exclusive authority of judgment was with God Almighty. No body shares this authority. Hadith says, even the Prophets & Messengers of God will be asked about their followers.
God will ask Jesus also. Qur'an says-- And behold! Allah will say; "oh Jesus the son of Mary, didst thou say unto men, ' Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say; - " Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right ( to say ). Had I said such a thing, Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. " Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, Worship Allah, my Lord & your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the watcher over them; and Thou art a witness to all things. Qur'an 5:116-117)
Rev:20:11-12 I saw a Great White Throne & One sitting on that. All assembled in front of that Throne------Judgment was made as per deeds of the person.
Rev 20:14 everybody was judged as per his deeds.
If we read the whole chapter on Judgment, we find that God almighty was sitting on a big White Throne. All people assembled in front of him for taking judgment. Some books were opened & judgment is delivered as per their deeds written in their books. Everybody was judged as per his deeds. There was no exceptions. Please note that the exclusive authority of judgment was with God Almighty. No body shares this authority. Hadith says, even the Prophets & Messengers of God will be asked about their followers.
God will ask Jesus also. Qur'an says-- And behold! Allah will say; "oh Jesus the son of Mary, didst thou say unto men, ' Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say; - " Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right ( to say ). Had I said such a thing, Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. " Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, Worship Allah, my Lord & your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the watcher over them; and Thou art a witness to all things. Qur'an 5:116-117)
[email protected] wrote:
At 09:53 AM 6/23/2012, [email protected] wrote:
Dear Khalilur,
Perhaps the Hindu's religion had a shade of some truth in that they recognized the tri-unity of God? Why is it that Christianity is copying some other religion?
Isn't is at least possible that even false religions have some points of truth to them?
So, the Trinity is in deed the real godhead, but the Way to know that God still remains a mystery to some such as
Hindu's, Buddhists and Islamists, for they seek to achieve acceptance by God through their own efforts, rather than accept His free gift of redemption motivated by His love for them.
Dear Khalilur,
Perhaps the Hindu's religion had a shade of some truth in that they recognized the tri-unity of God? Why is it that Christianity is copying some other religion?
Isn't is at least possible that even false religions have some points of truth to them?
So, the Trinity is in deed the real godhead, but the Way to know that God still remains a mystery to some such as
Hindu's, Buddhists and Islamists, for they seek to achieve acceptance by God through their own efforts, rather than accept His free gift of redemption motivated by His love for them.
KHALILUR RAHMAN
I sent about 3 mails on Revelation. If you have any comments on those, please send them to me.